I don't think everyone knew that Bob was a drinker, Daryl knew and threated him at the Vet School and I don't remember who he talked to about the falling shelf at the market but I do not think it was common knowlage.
Assuming that Bob is merely redshirt fodder, which I don't, than isn't it better to have redshirts who offer more than a body for killing? I like knowing the story, to whatever small degree, of everyone on the show. It does humanize their deaths.
I do agree with that. It is better to actually develop characters some. They are improving.
I like Bob, I like that he has demons to wrestle that extend beyond mere apocalyptic survival. I don't agree that they forgot about it.
It still was a pretty big 180. I was under the impression he was disliked by the prison group and very much out for himself. The sudden character transition did not show the middle part where he is transforming from a loser to a winner. He just suddenly was.
Breaking the fourth wall specifically refers to looking at the audience when on film, but I do accept your definition as close enough, and I know what you mean. Most shows fail in that area from time to time. I never noticed the shirt thing, I have no idea what your talking about. But I've had other moments take me out of the show. They're annoying. Most shows have them, even great shows. I get over it pretty quick.
I'm a fitness guy myself and I know how difficult it is to actually gain a prominent six-pack, so it always bothers me when every single character in what is supposed to be a realistic world has one. Its not normal to have a six-pack. You're actually kinda not supposed to, but chicks and Ryan Seacrest like it so whatever.
Right, I was using liberal meaning of the fourth wall. Whenever the show reminds the audience that it is just a show I consider it to be breaking the fourth wall.
My gripe was that the "reason" his shirt was off was to bandage his wound. The "point" of the shot was to display the actor's well-toned physique. Get what I mean?
Like in the first episode of Game of Thrones when Theon, Robb and Jon are all getting a haircut with their shirts off. The "point" of the scene was to show girls watching three attractive, well-toned bodies. I can't really decide why they needed their shirts off to get a haircut, especially since its freaking cold up there.
If Bob is a redshirt and I hope not at least he is a somewhat developed character to kill rather than someone I am really invested in or a bunch of people we've never even seen before. If he has to go I'm glad we got a chance to know him.
I generally like the part where the men of GoT take their shirts off, sometimes it's the high point for me but I didn't even notice Bob took his off so I guess it was a fail for me if the goal was to get me invested in his half nakedness.
No, that is a good question.
I'm trying to think. I honestly haven't ever been taken by Maggie's allure until that scene with Sasha where it seemed like she was ready to take their friendship to the next level after they fought off the zombies at the ice cream truck.
Has there been anyone else? TWD wise?
Game of Thrones wise, my question actually is "Are all the women of the noble houses super hot besides Arya?" I don't really know when they've shown an unattractive female (old ladies don't count).
Even Brienne is attractive.
I accept it when they do have these attractive characters though because they are described that way in the book. Except Brienne.
I do wonder where all the unattractive women are in TWD as well. Apparently they didn't survive. Carol is old enough to not count.
Did you think Maggie was taking the turn or that they were just going to be better friends?
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Wow really, first of all MM is lovely, sorry she is not to your taste, seconly she is not OLD, not everyone can be a 25 year old hottie even on GoT. Sorry but "old enough to not count." is so rude.
Sorry, as someone obsessed with his body I just can't let this 'perfectly toned abs' thing go. Is this seriously what passes for 'perfectly toned abs' these days? If so, why do I even bother with all this bodybuilding crap. I might as well just eat whatever the hell I want and stop lifting heavy because apparently all you need to be 'fit' is around 15% bodyfat that lets a vague outline of abdominal muscles poke through when you sit hunched over.
Okay, I'm done ranting now.
Thanks I was looking for that.