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When we finally got to see Negan, we go to see the face of such an insane and badass villain that I think its possible that Robert Kirkman might have painted himself in a corner? Negan and his crew of Saviors have proven to be extremely tough villains to Rick and the other surviviors. I think it will be either impossible or will take a long time for Negan to be topped as a bad guy! Unlike superhero comics, when characters are dead, they stay dead, I dont see Robert Kirkman miraculously making any characters survive in some unrealistic way either? Does anyone else think it will be very hard to top Negan?
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At this point yes. The only thing I could think of is if they came across some small reformed "nation" under the rule of a psycho military dictator type figure. But this isn't a super hero comic like you said, or even Resident Evil where the t-virus evolves and gives zombies super weird powers and creates zombie animals and weird super monsters haha.
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Who can top Negan? The Governor. Or Robot Govenor
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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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Seriously, though. With human villains, I think next we should go with a less insane approach.

I either want a villain (beating a dead horse here) who has a hand in everyone's pocket and is always ten steps ahead of everyone. Someone like Gustavo Fring. They could turn the tables on Rick and get a lot of his friends against him. I don't really want another villain with an army. We've been there. I had a more reasonable explanation on "Where to go after All Out War?" but if Ezekiel suffered a lot of casualties during the war, and the Kingdom wasn't doing too great with problems like starvation and dysentery, and Ezekiel loses Shiva and maybe even gets exiled from his own community, HE could be that villain.

We could also have Rick as the villain. Or Carl. A lot of possibilities.
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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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I don't think(I hope) the next problem/Villain will be just 1 person. It should be something different like disease, natural disaster or something along those lines.
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Maybe have issues where the food supply is so low that starvation seem inevitable!
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Negans like the most likeable villian thus far, the hillbillies & hunters & thomas & the gov were far worse. Negan tries to be reasonable and doesn't hurt women or children unless they shoot lucy.
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He's a thoughtful dictator. Like Stalin.
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I still don't like negan... Because he's a villain.
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Negan will be difficult to top simply because he is so damned entertaining whenever he speaks. It's probably inevitable he dies, but deep down I wish he could just go on the run similar to what the governor did on the tv show.

But since he probably will die, the next main villain will come down to starvation and the elements of nature crippling their food. This leads them to clearing out cities of the dead, and this will lead to a group emerging from bunkers to challenge them for what they just fought for.
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I would quite like to see some sort of religious cult, perhaps one that worships the zombies. It would be interesting to see them convert people to their way of thinking, dismantling groups from the inside. It would also be a great storyline for Father Gabriel.
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I would quite like to see some sort of religious cult, perhaps one that worships the zombies. It would be interesting to see them convert people to their way of thinking, dismantling groups from the inside. It would also be a great storyline for Father Gabriel.

I love this idea, there's a deleted scene from the show where dale hears a christian on the radio and I thought its be cool to explore characters like that.
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No one can top Negan, no one.

No fuck fuckity fucking way!
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I'd like to see a long time ally become the next major villian, like sometime long after Negan and this war is finished. Someone like Andrea, Michonne, Maggie, (maybe even Jesus given time), characters who are the core of the series turn against Rick and the Community for whatever reason, whether it be they go insane, mad with power, or whatever.

Maybe Rick becomes the next main villian, and we'll see the other characters become the "good guys" and turn against him (and Carl, because I don't think Carl will ever betray his father, why would he?).
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No one can top Negan, no one.

No fuck fuckity fucking way!

This is on Negan`s desk.....
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This is on Negan`s desk.....
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Haha, where do you find that image?

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Seriously, though. With human villains, I think next we should go with a less insane approach.

I either want a villain (beating a dead horse here) who has a hand in everyone's pocket and is always ten steps ahead of everyone. Someone like Gustavo Fring. They could turn the tables on Rick and get a lot of his friends against him. I don't really want another villain with an army. We've been there. I had a more reasonable explanation on "Where to go after All Out War?" but if Ezekiel suffered a lot of casualties during the war, and the Kingdom wasn't doing too great with problems like starvation and dysentery, and Ezekiel loses Shiva and maybe even gets exiled from his own community, HE could be that villain.

We could also have Rick as the villain. Or Carl. A lot of possibilities.


I just knew you'd bring up Fring. I was kind of thinking the same thing.

I agree that if there's another major villain in the comics that it should be someone less obviously evil and insane. I don't know that I'd want a villain that is hyper-competent like Gustavo Fring. It seems like Kirkman is kind of going that route with Negan and it comes off as a little unbelievable when he is ten steps ahead of Rick.

I think I'd like a villain version of Rick; someone that makes mistakes and has errors in judgements but cares about his/her people and isn't dehumanized like the Governor or Negan. Maybe the only reason there would be any conflict would be because Rick's group has food or shelter that the other group needs or vice versa. Rick's group could start the conflict between the two groups and he could be something of a villain himself.
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I think I'd like a villain version of Rick; someone that makes mistakes and has errors in judgements but cares about his/her people and isn't dehumanized like the Governor or Negan. Maybe the only reason there would be any conflict would be because Rick's group has food or shelter that the other group needs or vice versa. Rick's group could start the conflict between the two groups and he could be something of a villain himself.

Sounds like Ezekiel. Just like post World War I, the Kingdom (Germany) gets the crap end of the stick and wants change. Not like I'd be that interested in another villain right after this one and I don't like Ezekiel that much but it could happen.
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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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Sounds like Ezekiel. Just like post World War I, the Kingdom (Germany) gets the crap end of the stick and wants change. Not like I'd be that interested in another villain right after this one and I don't like Ezekiel that much but it could happen.


I was thinking that Ezekiel might become a villain at some point. I thought that Negan would be killed off earlier than expected and Ezekiel would rise to fill the power vacuum. That seems kind of unlikely now, but I could see it happening somewhere down the line.
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I would like something less....tough.

(Negan for example is an cursing biker/greaser/muscle dude, all badass in his strength....and balding.)


It is sort of cliche, but a slim, goodlooking man in an really wellcut (white) suit would be nice, as an contrast mostly.


Or just someone who as Jesus said, like Gustavo. Someone who is an really scheming tactician and is just diabolical, but still very cool/calm.


Or we could mix all of those things up

(Negan's muscles and baldness and coarse language, the wellcut suit, the scheming/tactician)

and we'd end up with.....uh.....


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Steven Armstrong from Metal Gear Rising?


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Maybe Jesus is waiting for his competition to be removed before he strikes as the enemy from with in! Maybe he needed rick to be the catalyst of it all!
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I really think that more than a couple of people were looking for something like Rick as a catalyst/scapegoat for something here.
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Maybe Jesus is waiting for his competition to be removed before he strikes as the enemy from with in! Maybe he needed rick to be the catalyst of it all!

HMMMM i think i have heard this somewhere.........
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