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I'm re-watching season two, and I realized how much Maggie annoyed me. Is it just me? Between having sex with Glenn and treating him like a "dog", cursing Lori out, then insulting Glenn, then making out with Glenn, and her irrational perception of the walkers. . . .. . ugh I can't stomach her.

I guess that was a nice place to start as far as showing character development.
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It just makes me want her that much more.

Well, okay, she was...territorial in that season. I suspect she, as a character, would in some way resent the charity of having to help strangers just because Otis shot one.It would be easy to respect Herschel's values on a farm closed off from strangers during a ZA, and help capture Walkers who strayed onto their property. Maggie was, however, a college girl and a little more worldly than many of the people on the farm, but not worldly enough to see Herschel's way of thinking.

Having to expose the family to these strangers, then risking your life to find the rest and bring them into the fold would be bad enough. Liking Glenn (in the beginning I suspect it was like Bruce Willis said in Armageddon: "It's not a choice, it's a lack of options"), then having to balance those feelings against the risk to the family and it's values, would make her very conflicted, so she takes it out on Glenn and he winds up with egg all over his face!

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It just makes me want her that much more.

Well, okay, she was...territorial in that season. I suspect she, as a character, would in some way resent the charity of having to help strangers just because Otis shot one.It would be easy to respect Herschel's values on a farm closed off from strangers during a ZA, and help capture Walkers who strayed onto their property. Maggie was, however, a college girl and a little more worldly than many of the people on the farm, but not worldly enough to see Herschel's way of thinking.

Having to expose the family to these strangers, then risking your life to find the rest and bring them into the fold would be bad enough. Liking Glenn (in the beginning I suspect it was like Bruce Willis said in Armageddon: "It's not a choice, it's a lack of options"), then having to balance those feelings against the risk to the family and it's values, would make her very conflicted, so she takes it out on Glenn and he winds up with egg all over his face!

Just my .02!


Yes, in the comic they did a great job of demonstrating their relationship began because it was very convenient. I actually like Maggie's character in the comic. She seemed much more pragmatic; whereas in the TV show she was very emotional. However, I can understand that could be a realistic reaction to a ZA. Sometimes I get caught up in the moment and only think of it from my POV.
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A lot of people don't like Maggie in the comic and I can understand why, but she's one of my favorite characters.

In the show, Maggie is my favorite character. I didn't like her in Season 2 either but she really stepped up in Season 3
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I'm re-watching season two, and I realized how much Maggie annoyed me. Is it just me? Between having sex with Glenn and treating him like a "dog", cursing Lori out, then insulting Glenn, then making out with Glenn, and her irrational perception of the walkers. . . .. . ugh I can't stomach her.

I guess that was a nice place to start as far as showing character development.


I would have cursed Lori out too if I found out she wanted me to get her abortions pills and I almost got killed while doing so. Do you hate the entire Greene family for their view on walkers or do you just have a grudge against Maggie. At least she didn't jump guy to guy (Andrea and Lori).
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I would have cursed Lori out too if I found out she wanted me to get her abortions pills and I almost got killed while doing so. Do you hate the entire Greene family for their view on walkers or do you just have a grudge against Maggie. At least she didn't jump guy to guy (Andrea and Lori).


I don't hate the Green family. I understand they came to their own conclusion about the ZA. It was just Maggie that got under my skin. She volunteered to go on the run to the pharmacy, because Glenn was going. I don't think that's Lori's fault. She did not ask Maggie to go. By the way Lori and Andrea has their "ways" that make me gag as well. Maggie's emotional roller coaster, in such a short period of time, didn't sit well with me. However, with all things considered I guess I can empathize with her situation.

The third season Maggie grew on me. I like characters that take me through an emotional trek.
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A lot of people don't like Maggie in the comic and I can understand why, but she's one of my favorite characters.

In the show, Maggie is my favorite character. I didn't like her in Season 2 either but she really stepped up in Season 3


Yes, in season three Maggie was well adjusted to the situation and I like her.
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I'm re-watching season two, and I realized how much Maggie annoyed me. Is it just me? Between having sex with Glenn and treating him like a "dog", cursing Lori out, then insulting Glenn, then making out with Glenn, and her irrational perception of the walkers. . . .. . ugh I can't stomach her.

I guess that was a nice place to start as far as showing character development.

Agreed. She was a biatch. Don't forget she slapped Shane after Shane made her daddy look like a fool.
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She slapped Shane because he almost got the entire group kicked off of the farm. Yes, it was necessary to get rid of the walkers in the barn, but perhaps it could have been handled in a way that wouldn't lead Beth to go into shock and Hershel to leave unnoticed and start drinking again.
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I've always liked Maggie. She was a little crazy at first, but there was a lot of crap going on. I doubt I would be 100% sane in the same circumstances.
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I've never seen Maggie as annoying. In fact she made it up to my favourites in the first couple of scenes she was in.

Firstly, when Rick came running with Carl she volunteered to go and get Lori. Rick was in a bad place, and Shane was going on the supply run with Otis. She didn't know these people, but she was pretty much willing to risk her life by going out into the zombie wastelands and get a group of strangers.

Second of all it was very clear that she helped a lot around the farm. From doing supply runs to "walker duty", she done it all. She didn't kill the walkers but she knew they were dangerous. Still didn't stop her from trying to get them into her barn and going on horseback to retrieve a group of strangers.

Thirdly her relationship with Glenn is one of the most realistic ones in the show. In real life many people meet each other and fall in love with each other pretty quickly. Now add a zombie apocalypse in which you can die at any moment, and all you need is an escape from the loneliness and fear that you could be dead within the next hour. Glenn was awkward around her, and she didn't exactly do any favours but she was caught Inbetween Glenn and her dad. Hershel viewed the zombies as sick people, Glenn viewed them as threats. She wasn't going to abandon her father's wishes and respect just because some guy she fancied was wanting a relationship witness her.

Fourth she helped Beth when Hershel was off the wagon. I could personally see why Maggie was outraged that Andrea let her try to kill herself. If somebody had done that to my brother I wouldn't be held responsible for my actions. Beth was at her most vulnerable, and Andrea gave her the knife. Keep in mind Andrea was one of my favourites at that point before the disastrous season3 and I've always loathed Beth but it still wasn't a nice thing to do.

And finally she was one of the two strong females in the group back in season2. Maggie and Andrea were the only ones willing enough to kick zombie ass and do what needed to be done at this point (Maggie needed a bit of persuasion to actually kill them though). I like Carol, but she and Lori certainly weren't fighting for the Feminist cause at this point. Beth and Patricia were just Redshirts really, and in a show with many strong men and only two strong women unfortunate implications rose.

It's weird seeing what happened down on the road though with all these characters. They've changed so much, and we have some stronger women now (Michonne, Sasha, Carol, Tara at a push). But Maggie to be me had multiple layers of her personality that separated her from her action side. She is smart, loyal, loving, caring and also vulnerable at extreme moments, depends on her family to stay alive and will break down to save somebody she loves.
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I didn't think Maggie should've have been mad at Lori insulting her the way she did after all Glenn is the one asked her to go ...
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I didn't think Maggie should've have been mad at Lori insulting her the way she did after all Glenn is the one asked her to go ...


She had every right to be mad at Lori. She was the one who asked Glenn to go to the pharmacy. Maggie went with Glenn because she needed supplies as well, plus she hated the way everybody was treating Glenn as some sort of bait for the walkers. Because of this she and Glenn were nearly killed, and she was extremely pissed off that they nearly died because the group saw Glenn as expendable and as such they always sent him off in dangerous supply runs.
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Glenn saved her and she didn't die mean while her dad had a barn full of walkers that she didn't care about if she had gone by herself because she needed more supplies she would've died she should've been glad Glenn needed to go back and the supplies she needed wasn't exactly for her either they both we're worrying about other people
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Glenn saved her and she didn't die mean while her dad had a barn full of walkers that she didn't care about if she had gone by herself because she needed more supplies she would've died she should've been glad Glenn needed to go back and the supplies she needed wasn't exactly for her either they both we're worrying about other people


But you said it yourself, the supplies were for other people (her family, Rick's group). Lori's pills were the things Maggie was looking for, and as a result she came across that zombie.

Remember Maggie and Hershel were in mourning, and they didn't want to kill the zombies as they viewed them as people. She could knock them down with a baseball bat at this time, so she didn't need to rely on others to help her. I have a feeling she rounded those zombies to the barn along with Otis, Hershel and Jimmy. She was only taken by surprise due to the pharmacy being clear before (it's far fetched the zombie didn't notice the two when they were having sex though)
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Maggie was pissed because they had been living a fairly sheltered life at the farm and she has only had limited experience dealing with the walkers at this point.  So coming face to face with that zombie in the pharmacy terrified the living hell out of her, and when she realized that she almost died because someone else was having sex, she became livid.  I don't blame her for being pissed, because you also have to keep in mind that Maggie doesn't know the story yet with Shane, Lori and Rick, and didn't see how hard the whole thing was for Lori on her end as well.


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Maggie was pissed because they had been living a fairly sheltered life at the farm and she has only had limited experience dealing with the walkers at this point.  So coming face to face with that zombie in the pharmacy terrified the living hell out of her, and when she realized that she almost died because someone else was having sex, she became livid.  I don't blame her for being pissed, because you also have to keep in mind that Maggie doesn't know the story yet with Shane, Lori and Rick, and didn't see how hard the whole thing was for Lori on her end as well.


This times a thousand. I don't see how she was being a bitch regarding this situation, she almost died due to Lori not using protection.
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