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The original idea for the comic was for Rick to be killed in issue 6 and then the story would focus on Carl losing his Dad and being raised by a man who wasn't his father. I like the direction they took but I think this one is very interesting as well. I'd like to see a spin off of this in the future, but that's unlikely. The group would've never left, never met Tyreese, and a lot of people probably would've died a lot faster. Carl probably would've eventually killed Shane several issues down the road. Thoughts?
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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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that would have been right up there with RK's "dead planet" idea for the walking dead. we sure wouldn't be celebrating the tenth year anniv of TWD, (oct '13) if they would have gone with killing rick off at start...


I don't think many people would wanna read a comic where the main character is 7 year old growing up in an ZA,

BUT............................. ON THAT SAME NOTE,

If rick is to die, at this point or some time with in the next year (comic year), and Carl was then the main character, I guess I would be reading a comic about a 9-10 year old boy growing in an ZA. (because im already so invested in this comic, I would like to keep reading it till the end) good figure,huh :smiley-confused002:
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I like that Kirkman had Carl kill Shane, I think that went further for carl's character than simply being raised by another man in the za. I'm not a big rick fan, but shane would've been a far worse leader solo. I wish shane didn't lose it so early on, like if he had made it to the prison I doubt lori & judy would've died. Shane could've covered the rear and got shot and died a hero, or he could ran with judy. It would've been cool to see them with their kids.
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Its weird to think about it. The Governor would probably harassing some other group, they would never meet Tyreese or Abraham, Negan would keep taking advantage of the Hilltop and Kingdom... It would be so awesome to see a small book on what would have happened.
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isn't that what the TV show is for ? to see what would happen if things went down different , i may be wrong but i remember RK saying that is the purpose of the show.
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isn't that what the TV show is for ? to see what would happen if things went down different , i may be wrong but i remember RK saying that is the purpose of the show.

I don't want to turn this into another "Anyone hate the TV Show" thread but I think that if that was RK's intention, then that's not a good idea. Shane killing Rick in the show would've been something drastically different that completely altered the landscape. That would've been cool. The reason the comic works as it is is because of the fact that Kirkman makes a lot of creative decisions and keeps building up the tension to an escalating point (he admitted that he wrote Rick getting his hand chopped off and Abe dying on the fly because he thought it would've been cool). The way the TV show bumbles along and does a bunch of "What if" situations makes it seem like Kirkman is making the show more for himself than fans of the comic. If the characters in the show make different decisions, then the decisions they make should also DRASTICALLY affect the story. This isn't the Walking Dead Game where based on all the decisions you make, the story still stays on one basic path.
That's my main problem with the show. I've mentioned this before but it should've followed a different group of survivors or followed the comic exactly and not travel a middle ground. All these different decisions that Kirkman makes seem to be forgotten by the characters very quickly, so they don't seem to have any effect. Besides Lori and Shane, can you say that the show would be drastically different if another or all of the characters were still alive and at the prison?
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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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All that said i have no need for a "what if" version of the Walking Dead , it does not interest me in the least.
The story is what it is and this isn't a Marvel comic with alternate universes up the ass.
I am happy with the way the story is now and think any alternate version of it would ruin the work RK has done building up these characters, kind of like how the TV show is a major disappointment to most comic fans with the way they have altered the story.

Edited by PorkTornado75, 13 May 2013 - 08:02 PM.

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I guess you're right. A spinoff would kind of ruin it. I still think this is a cool idea to think about, though. It would make for a neat story. What would Shane tell the group? Rick snapped? Would Carl and Lori believe him?
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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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Shane would have waited for rescue and everyone would have died. The Walking Dead would be a much shorter comic.

I'd be interested to see that happen in a spin-off. Everyone from the original group dying, people who disagreed with Shane's leadership splitting off from the group. It'd be a nice what-if story.
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Shane would have waited for rescue and everyone would have died. The Walking Dead would be a much shorter comic.

I'd be interested to see that happen in a spin-off. Everyone from the original group dying, people who disagreed with Shane's leadership splitting off from the group. It'd be a nice what-if story.

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