I actually really liked "We Find Ourselves", certainly far more than I liked No Way Out itself. So I don't really mind the possibility of the upcoming issues being like that, and I think there's a good chance I'm going to similarly prefer them to AOW.Oh I think there will be some exciting issues here and there. Plus, like you said, depending on the way Kirkman writes things from here on out, it could be rather exciting. To me, however, it seems that there will be some slow build-up coming. I am not suggesting as slow as after "No Way Out" slow, but somewhat slow.
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01 June 2014 - 03:21 PM
I actually really liked "We Find Ourselves", certainly far more than I liked No Way Out itself. So I don't really mind the possibility of the upcoming issues being like that, and I think there's a good chance I'm going to similarly prefer them to AOW.
I found "We Find Overselves" to be painfully slow at times, especially the Nicholas rebellion stuff. However, there was good stuff like Andrea x Rick and Rosita actually doing something. But it really depends on what kind of reader you are at the end of the day. My main thing with the current arc is that I think it needs to give focus to the undeveloped characters like Heath. As much as I love Negan, I don't want another jerking match between him and Rick.
"Let the slaughter begin..."
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01 June 2014 - 03:47 PM
I found "We Find Overselves" to be painfully slow at times, especially the Nicholas rebellion stuff. However, there was good stuff like Andrea x Rick and Rosita actually doing something. But it really depends on what kind of reader you are at the end of the day. My main thing with the current arc is that I think it needs to give focus to the undeveloped characters like Heath. As much as I love Negan, I don't want another jerking match between him and Rick.
Wait, what did Rosita do in that volume? I can only recall she broke up with Abraham and moved in with Eugene.
The only highlight of that volume was Rick and Andrea moving on from their past because it felt natural. We Find Ourselves should have been better than it turned out to be, but if failed to do so. We never got closer to find out anything about the new survivors except that Nicholas was paranoid and, umm, Aaron is inappropriate in his humour. I hope we don't get another repeat of that volume.
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01 June 2014 - 03:49 PM
Not a huge fan of "We Find Ourselves" either, but I agree with Cthulu that it was miles better than "No Way Out"
Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?
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01 June 2014 - 06:03 PM
Only thing I didn't like was the sudden Rick/Jessie relationship. Her husband was barely in the grave, and despite how much of a bastard he was he was still the father of her son. And Carl getting shot in the head. I would have been fine with it if he ended up dying or actually suffered extreme consequences, but it was all "Judith who" for a second then he remembered it all in a couple of days later anyway.
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01 June 2014 - 06:19 PM
No Way Out was the start of the "zombies are no longer a threat" thing. Plus, the art was at the absolute worst
The moment with Jessie was the only thing that redeemed it from being the worst arc in the series for me
Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?
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01 June 2014 - 07:25 PM
well we've got to look at it this way, these people have spent 4 years dealing with this same threat, figuring out how not to die from it and learning from the people who do. it's only natural that this far into it, walkers are a minor threat. they know how they work for the most part, and they've found a way to exploit it.
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01 June 2014 - 07:49 PM
No Way Out was the start of the "zombies are no longer a threat" thing. Plus, the art was at the absolute worst
The moment with Jessie was the only thing that redeemed it from being the worst arc in the series for me
I never really looked at it that way. It was the moment they realised that zombies weren't a threat, but this had been the largest herd they had faced yet. There was the threat of being trapped and starved out, and they were completely terrified of even trying to escape. It was only in a moment of pure craziness they fought back and won.
Whilst the moment with Jessie was shocking, I never really cared for her that much or Ron. I think this was the first real mistake Kirkman had made at this point. He hadn't invested enough time in these characters, for me to care about them. A page of her seducing Rick wasn't going to make me shed tears that she died. I think that's what ended up making volume 15 such a downer, if I'm being honest.
well we've got to look at it this way, these people have spent 4 years dealing with this same threat, figuring out how not to die from it and learning from the people who do. it's only natural that this far into it, walkers are a minor threat. they know how they work for the most part, and they've found a way to exploit it.
Agreed. They're more like a force of nature at this point. I'm still suspending my disbelief at the fact they still exist in large numbers due to the fact that we've seen time and time again that they were rotting out and only a year had passed. Surely with four communities the large number of walkers in their area would be wiped out.
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01 June 2014 - 08:32 PM
Agreed. They're more like a force of nature at this point. I'm still suspending my disbelief at the fact they still exist in large numbers due to the fact that we've seen time and time again that they were rotting out and only a year had passed. Surely with four communities the large number of walkers in their area would be wiped out.
we only saw two or three examples of advanced decomposition, with no indication that all other walkers should be affected, and also, theyr'e roamers, they roam. you can clear an area but more will come. way to quote the man, abraham though =]
also with as much as we've reached this specific point of discussion, check out a book called the zombie survival guide. it's a fictitious work by the author of wwz, and set in that universe, but it presents a lot of interesting theories about zombies [specifically, decomposition] that i've chosen to apply to the walking dead until canon indicates otherwise.
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01 June 2014 - 08:43 PM
I agree to an extent on the fact they always roam, but it seems a bit contrived that all the zombies of America just so happen to follow Rick and company haha.
I'll check it out
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01 June 2014 - 10:45 PM
well you've got to figure, there's MILLIONS of them, all roaming around following gunshots and whatnot. as for the decomposed zombies, in my book, they were isolated incidents. maybe specific examples of best case scenario decomposition environments, or maybe even that there is some kind of specific chemical or substance that accelerates their decomposition, or at least makes them susceptible to it by negating whatever makes them NOT rot. i feel like eventually rk will take it in that kind of direction, and he was just setting it up way ahead of time. he's always hinted at having a definite ending in mind.
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How much further past issue #144 will the comics go? Remember, Compendium volume 3 is due out in October and it goes up to issue #144. Could this be the beginning of the end for the comic series? Or will it keep going?
300 + issues , Kirkman has stated he has at least that much planned out in advance.
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