#1
25 April 2013 - 07:59 PM
I’m wondering how they are going to handle baby Judith. When Lori was pregnant I thought for sure the baby would be still born because the writers would either not give attention needed to the circumstances associated with a newborn in the ZA. So far Judith has been the perfect baby “eats like a horse, sleeps like a rock” they have gone on runs to get formula diapers, clothes. Going forward each time the baby needs more things the “runs” are going to take the characters further and further from home base as they start clearing out what’s closest to the prison.
I personally don’t think the “baby” story line will work. They will either keep it going as it is kind of in the background, a reason to go for a run, or they may start to devote more time to the baby and neglect other characters. Is the show going to make mention of the baby teething, getting sick, growing out of cloths? I think if you are going to commit to something like a newborn in any kind of apocalyptical world the difficulties should be shown associated with it. Some may say well 200 years ago women did fine, but who in that group knows what women did 200 years ago to accommodate a baby’s needs?
#2
25 April 2013 - 08:14 PM
I don't see many options for Judith besides death, as much as I don't want her to die I think she will
#3
25 April 2013 - 08:26 PM
I don't hate you for this thread. If Judith were to die I wish it would have been in season 3. As soon as she starts to become my baby niece and nephew type things. I will be so upset when she dies. I don't see another option. Once the baby outgrows being replaced by different actors time jumps will be a MAJOR problem for the little actress that will play Judith.
I don't see many options for Judith besides death, as much as I don't want her to die I think she will
I know what you mean, my Godson isn't 6 months yet, I Love him like crazy, but I do see how much work and attention they need. I feel that if they are going to have a baby on the show it deserves more attention (story-wise) so we can see how the group is coping, but then that means cutting time from other characters, which is why I think it was a bad call for the baby to survive. If she dies later on its gonna be so overwhelming, unless they are saving that as a plot device to bring Carl and Rick back together after a season of fighting.
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25 April 2013 - 08:31 PM
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25 April 2013 - 08:40 PM
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25 April 2013 - 08:54 PM
#7
25 April 2013 - 09:28 PM
I also think Judith could add some much needed suspense to upcoming story lines, something very much lacking in S3. They could be enjoyable scenes if they take this opportunity to demonstrate the other characters resourcefulness and badassery. So, I don't think they have to kill Judith off if they do her story right. The question is: Will they do her story right?
Also, with Judith being so small, they can cast a different actress for her after they find the perfect fit. All they would need is a time jump between seasons. They can't do that as successfully with Carl.
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#8
25 April 2013 - 09:39 PM
We have not seen a baby in the comics for any prolonged amount of time, so it would be an entirely fresh storyline for the tv show and I think the writers are smart enough to find a way to incorporate the baby into the storyline.
They're lucky they're in the prison. On the road, a baby could be the deadliest part of the group.
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25 April 2013 - 09:49 PM
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26 April 2013 - 01:02 AM
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26 April 2013 - 01:28 AM
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27 April 2013 - 06:42 AM
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#17
27 April 2013 - 01:51 PM
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27 April 2013 - 02:17 PM
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#19
27 April 2013 - 09:39 PM
Judith may not be the only baby on the show since that WB citizen, like Lori, was about to pop in episode 3. Either her child was born off camera or a pregnant woman could have been among the WB citizens on the bus. Unless that child died, Judith would not be the only baby to contend with.
You can see a woman holding a baby when the Woodburians are getting off the bus. It's probably the same baby, is my guess.
I don't think having Judith around is a bad thing. I actually think she is great for the group's morale, really giving them all a piece of hope. I also thinks it makes for good story, adding extra challenges in an already difficult situation, keeping her safe and healthy.
I don't think we will see a lot of "baby shit" like changing diapers, etc. We know all that stuff is done off-camera, so it's not like it's going to become a kid's show or something. Judith has already spent most of her time in the background, and she's been pretty safe behind the prison walls, so there hasn't been a really realistic way for her to die yet. I'm okay with it (though I'd be quite saddened) if she does die, so as long as it's good for the plot and makes sense and not cheap shock value. If done right, it could be good for Rick and Carl's development, but I just as much feel like keeping her around also provides plenty of good storyline opportunities.
I guess the only major problem with keeping her is a behind the scenes issue. Kids get big fast and she could end up looking much different from season to season, possibly portrayed by multiple kid actresses, but with the show's time jumps I think it's still feasible to work around.
#20
28 April 2013 - 04:42 PM
personally I have less than zero interest in a baby on the show. I have a kid and I'm not heartless, but I hope Judith dies asap. they are not in a part of this whole story where things are stable enough for a baby and I don't want any minute of the show to revolve around her. I'm guessing we see the last of her in the midseason finale.
#21
28 April 2013 - 05:02 PM
. There is a reason that RK, killed off Shane's bastard baby, because dealing with a newborn is BULLSHIT.... I don't wanna watch a show about dealing with baby shit, NOPE! I deal with all that shit, in real life. I don't want that in my Comic/Tv shows. There are already a bunch of kids in TWD story. Keeping Shane's bastard B, for "Plot" reasons is a VERY dumb idea!
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#22
28 April 2013 - 09:35 PM
#23
29 April 2013 - 12:44 AM
Having a baby does throw an interesting dynamic and element of danger into the mix. But as mentioned, as long as they stay in the prison the baby should be alright. She has both Carol and Beth looking out for her. Carol is an experienced mother and probably loves the idea of a "do-over" since she lost Sophia.
If you all remember Full House, the Olsen twins practically grew up on the show in front of our eyes. They were months old when they were first cast and lasted until they were about 8 or 9 years old by the show's end. There's no reason why they couldn't do the same with Judith.
The writers also have to contend with the idea of killing an infant on the show. Even doing so "off-screen" (Rick comes back from a run finding out that Judith is dead by... whatever!) is controversial... but then the show has been that already to the extreme.
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30 April 2013 - 12:55 PM
#25
11 May 2013 - 12:44 AM
As long as they have a relatively safe home, like the prison, I think Judith can be protected just like everyone else. I also think TPTB could keep her protected as a replacement for Carl. I know many people think Carl can't be killed and I used to, but not anymore. TPTB have shown with Lori and Andrea that the days are numbered for those characters hated by a large portion of the fanbase. Many people expressed their dislike of S1/S2 Carl. People didn't start to like him until he became more badass. TBH, I still don't care for him all that much. However, Andrea has shown that being a badass won't necessarily save you and Carl's new storyline of wanting to kill every potential threat that comes along may alienate some fans. If this happens, I can see TPTB killing Carl, especially with Judith still around. Judith could be Rick's reason to go on, if Carl dies.
I also think Judith could add some much needed suspense to upcoming story lines, something very much lacking in S3. They could be enjoyable scenes if they take this opportunity to demonstrate the other characters resourcefulness and badassery. So, I don't think they have to kill Judith off if they do her story right. The question is: Will they do her story right?
Also, with Judith being so small, they can cast a different actress for her after they find the perfect fit. All they would need is a time jump between seasons. They can't do that as successfully with Carl.
Nice post. I agree about Carl, I have never liked the character, or perhaps it is the way the actor is playing him. Either way no tears shed if he bites the dust. And I would go easy on the "I know many people think Carl can't be killed" kind of stuff , we all know no one is safe. Except of course the daring of writers , TG, apparently he can do anything. Totally agree about Carl and his "kill every potential threat" storyline but prefer the Judith storyline end as soon as possible.
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