#1
24 April 2013 - 02:28 PM

For me…(and I’m not including everyone just those that stand out to me , your choices may differ)
Good Kills…Ed, Otis, Shane. IMO these deaths helped the plot as well as affecting some characters and their behavior going forward. I also say Dale was a good kill, his loss affected every member of the group and it seems that Hershel had kind of filled his shoes as the voice of wisdom and conscious. T-Dog, although I wish he had a larger role throughout his death in that episode made sense to me.
Bad Kills…Lori..too soon led to Ricks visit to crazy town because they had no closure. Oscar and Axel, both bad kills in my book, again too soon. Andrea bad kill, just the way it went down did not make sense to me and I felt cheated for a main character to go like that.

#2
24 April 2013 - 04:54 PM

She could have survived and not die, I'm still trying to process that she's dead. I always was waiting for the time when they redeemed her character and made her the strong and 'badass' character she is in the comics.
Unfortunately that day never came, and I feel let down we had to see her go like that.
I also felt that Patricia who died in season one was sort of a waste of life, I don't have a issue with how she died but its because of why she died, she opted out which in my opinion is wrong! you should go down fighting and not surrender.
I also agree with you about the Oscar and Axel, a lot of character development could have happened but I love the way Thomas was killed! 'Shit happens'
#3
24 April 2013 - 05:35 PM

#4
24 April 2013 - 06:01 PM

It didn't help that the pre-season interviews stated that he would have a larger role in S3.
#5
24 April 2013 - 06:15 PM

Bad: Dale. I completely understand that it was because of 'real world' issues, but it was a stupid death, completely avoidable, and it didn't really advance the story at all (with the exception of Daryl 'doing the dirty work' for Rick).
Bad: Oscar. The sole purpose for him being killed was to show how dangerous the attack on Woodbury was without killing off one of the main characters. Shoddy storytelling, which always annoys me.
Good: T-Dog. While I agree with many that he went 'too soon', he went out ... well. He was protecting someone else in the group and made the needed sacrifice.
Good: Shane. Absolutely critical and the 'correct' thing to do from the story point of view. It had a *huge* impact on a number of characters - especially Carl.
#6
24 April 2013 - 06:30 PM

#7
24 April 2013 - 07:02 PM

Bad kills : Andrea (I don't even need to explain why), Dale (Herschel should have taken his place), Jacqui (potentially interesting character, seemed unlike her to opt out)
Kills that didn't register for me: Axel (barely knew anything), Oscar (barely knew anything) , Patricia (see last two) , Jimmy (who?

#8
24 April 2013 - 07:08 PM

I'm going to call two "Bad" Kills and two "Good" kills
Bad: Dale. I completely understand that it was because of 'real world' issues, but it was a stupid death, completely avoidable, and it didn't really advance the story at all (with the exception of Daryl 'doing the dirty work' for Rick).
Bad: Oscar. The sole purpose for him being killed was to show how dangerous the attack on Woodbury was without killing off one of the main characters. Shoddy storytelling, which always annoys me.
Good: T-Dog. While I agree with many that he went 'too soon', he went out ... well. He was protecting someone else in the group and made the needed sacrifice.
Good: Shane. Absolutely critical and the 'correct' thing to do from the story point of view. It had a *huge* impact on a number of characters - especially Carl.
I thought the purpose of Oscar's death was to show Rick sliding further into the rabbit hole. It was Rick seeing "Shane" that caused his death. If he hadn't hesitated, he would have shot that guy before that guy shot Oscar.
#9
25 April 2013 - 12:21 AM

Good kills. Amy (developed Andrea) , Otis (proved how bad Shane was) , Sophia (eventually developed Carol) , Shane (furthered Rick, neccessary storyline) . Lori (developed Rick and Carl just bad timing) .
Bad kills : Andrea (I don't even need to explain why), Dale (Herschel should have taken his place), Jacqui (potentially interesting character, seemed unlike her to opt out)
Kills that didn't register for me: Axel (barely knew anything), Oscar (barely knew anything) , Patricia (see last two) , Jimmy (who?). T-dog (barely knew anything about him)
Are you a mind reader stick?? That's the same exact way that I feel. Some character deaths were good and needed to develop the plot/characters, others were bad and didn't even make sense plot wise.
#10
25 April 2013 - 12:22 AM

#11
25 April 2013 - 01:33 PM

I thought the purpose of Oscar's death was to show Rick sliding further into the rabbit hole. It was Rick seeing "Shane" that caused his death. If he hadn't hesitated, he would have shot that guy before that guy shot Oscar.
I agree, sort of... but the fact is, they still could have shown Rick thinking it was Shane (i.e. 'down the rabbit hole') and not killed Oscar.
<grin> You know, a good wound would have been better in that situation...
#12
25 April 2013 - 01:45 PM

#13
25 April 2013 - 02:15 PM

Lori, Otis, Penny and Oscar's death were not as strong but important.
To me the only deaths that were pointless were Tdog who died in the same ep as Lori's more important death and Axle who died just as he started to contribute to the show.
#14
25 April 2013 - 02:59 PM

#15
25 April 2013 - 04:44 PM

I agree, sort of... but the fact is, they still could have shown Rick thinking it was Shane (i.e. 'down the rabbit hole') and not killed Oscar.
<grin> You know, a good wound would have been better in that situation...
I agree with you. Oscar had a lot of potential.
His death scene was very anti-climatic and was almost a "blink and you miss it" situation.
#16
25 April 2013 - 05:34 PM

I agree with you. Oscar had a lot of potential.
His death scene was very anti-climatic and was almost a "blink and you miss it" situation.
Total agreement - that is one of the reasons that I called it a 'bad kill'. There were so many other ways that the writers could accomplish the same goal (Rick down the rabbit hole, and attacking Woodbury is dangerous), but they went for the easy way out.
#17
25 April 2013 - 05:35 PM

#18
26 April 2013 - 05:43 PM

prisoners arc), and Milton.
Bad Kills: Jacqui (seemed out of character), Dale (only done because DeMunn was leaving the show), T-Dog (only done for shock
value), Oscar (only done for shock value - could have been shot, but not fatally wounded and had same effect), Axel
(only done for shock value), Merle (I feel there was more of the Dixon Brothers arc to be told), and Andrea (pandering).
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#19
28 April 2013 - 02:49 PM

#20
28 April 2013 - 03:45 PM

On the other hand to many sudden deaths would reduce the quality of writing on the show to cheap shock tactics, which have no longevity. A sudden death is good once in a while due to the setting of the show, and for that reason I think Axel's death was a good kill, it served the big picture. I don't see why you have to know someone in order to be affected by their death on some level?

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