The Walking Dead Season 3 Ep 11 - I Ain’T A Judas - Review

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The Walking Dead Season 3 Ep 11 "I Ain't a Judas" (204 )

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She's an idiot who refuses to believe that she was wrong. She's kinda liking th Governor and maybe she realizes that without him, she wouldn't be enough to keep the town in shape.
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What are people expecting with Andrea? Sure, she has the Governor in a vulnerable position, but what happens after she kills him? She'll get killed by his 'loyal guards,' Shupert or Martinez.


I used to think they were going to develop Martinez into a layered character, but if Andrea even tries to lift a finger towards the Governor, Martinez would shot her in a SECOND.

Goddammit, I wanted to like Martinez.
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I don't think it's pointless. I think it makes perfect sense. They literally begged Rick's group to let them stay and they were thrown out. It was heartless. Rick came off as an arrogant, crazy, jerk. Then Milton and the Governor sweep in and give them a nice, clean place to stay. The Governor played the whole scene out perfectly when they talked abut Rick and his group. Notice he didn't push at all. He kept saying "You rest, we can talk about it tomorrow." He wanted them to know Rick's group had hurt them but he wanted them to think Ricks group instigated the whole thing and that Woodbury was innocent. He wanted them to join his side but he wanted them to believe it was their decision and that he would never pressure anyone. It was smart.


Tyreese's group will never become a major part of Woodbury, they'll either end up leaving Woodbury and joining the Prison Group or they'll die so them going to Woodbury seems pointless to me. We know that there will be two outcomes, maybe a third I haven't thought of but they won't become anything major there. I mean Martinez was quite a big part of the Woodbury story in the comics, he is the Governors right hand man in the tv series and yet he doesn't do anything or say anything so I don't see Tyreese's group doing much.
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When Carol and Daryl were talking, he says he's back at the tomb. She says that what T-Dog said and what she believed until she found her alive.


I don't consider that flirting. I think she was trying to make the point that he is a needed member of the group.
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He wasn't really getting tougher, he wasn't asking so he could go in and kill them but so that the Governor could go and do that. I would say that him wrestling the walker shows he has gotten braver but then it was ruined by him ratting Andrea out to the Governer, he probably wouldn't have physically helped Andrea if the Governor hadn't asked. I liked him throughout the season but then this episode just put me off him.
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I wouldn't say so, Merle almost killed Glenn and Michonne and stood back as the Governor was going to rape Maggie, he also nearly killed them all in Atlanta. I would say that the plan wouldn't have worked. All the Governor needed Merle for was to rile up the people of Woodbury and prove that one of the attackers (Daryl) was related to Merle. He isn't really needed and the Governor doesn't want to kill him because he knows it was made up, only that Merle lied about killing Michonne.
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I hate, HATE, the fact that Merle is back and walking round the prison when two episodes ago he was trying to kill Glenn and Michonne, and knew about the Governor trying to rape Maggie AND LET IT HAPPEN. But suddenly Daryl says Merle stays and Glenn and Michonne just fold? Murderer Merle who didn't care about Maggie being raped? Seriously? Is the Dixon pandering that severe?



YES!

The writers wanted to have the Merle and Daryl interaction but I believe they wrote themselves into a corner with Merle. They wanted him to be badass and then be redeemable. They wanted desperately to bring Merle and Daryl back together and have that new dynamic of a stronger Daryl play out. However they went to far with Merle's character and in the end had to wave a magic wand to allow him back into the prison group.

Merle has done some terrible things. Some of it is much like the Governor and the writers have employed a heavy handed use of dramatic irony ( where the audience knows things but the characters don't). This has been used so much this season and I have tried to be honest with my anger/confusion at the characters and remember that I know 'stuff' they don't. However in Merle's case team prison knows enough with the Maggie/ Glenn kidnapping torture to NEVER trust him again. For gods sake he was willingly taking them to be executed.

Merle could have been redeemable had he writers changed up things a bit...
  • IF another one of the Governor's people found Maggie and Glenn and brought them back to the prison where Merle then realizes oh this is Glenn from Atlanta and tries to figure out where his brother is.
  • IF Merle stood guard outside the rooms as Glenn/Maggie were interrogated. He would then not be guilty of directly trying to kill Glenn. I mean good lord he threw a walker at Glenn while he was duct taped to a chair!
  • IF Merle was there when they were taking them to be executed and had spoken up 'come on guys lets not execute them, they have information about my brother, they are just kids...' ( even if it was b/c he wanted Glenn alive to led him to his brother-selfish reasons).
If this had been Merle's actions then I could over look the willing gleeful killing of the soldiers and even the mercenary actions chasing down Michonne. I can see the chasing of Michonne as mercenary 'it's just business' but the Maggie Glenn stuff was personal outright evil.

Merle as written is NOT redeemable. The actions #2 & #3 above should have been the Governor but the writers wanted Merle to be the big bad here...

This was poorly written pandering to the Dixon brother interaction. The very fact that they would take in Merle and not even have his murderous ass locked up is unbelievable. They even gave him a weapon!! To only have the one plea by Glenn to Rick that 'I wouldn't make you sleep with Shane after he tried to kill you' . I call hip deep BS! GLENN saved Rick's sorry ass in Atlanta. Glenn has been a valuable member to the group and the very fact that they would take Merle back so quickly and so freely makes me so angry at the writers. How can you screw up something so badly! Having even Hershel make some comment in Merle's defense about his Military training is BS! Not after he was taking your 'most precious thing in the world' to be executed!!! REALLY! I am supposed to buy this??? Oh yeah I forgot - wave the magic wand and Merle is redeemed. Forget the need to write credible story lines
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Merle is as redeemable as Anakin/Vader. I mean Anakin kills younglings and later Obi Wan (kinda) but in the end he is redeemable when he saves Luke. So why can't Merle be redeemable if he does soemthing to save Glenn or Rick or Michonne in the end. I think Merle will have his showdown with the Gov. Rick and the gov have an indirect dispute but with Merle it is personal.

My $ 0.02.
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When Andrea asked Carol about Shane and eh told her that Shane tried to kill Rick and and had to back. She replied with "but Shan loved Rick!" Carol said back "Shane loved Lori" and is is the but I think Andrea was sad because she loved him too and didn't think he'd be that cruel.


Nah. I think Shane was just a penis ride for Andrea. She was rushing from the adrenaline of her discovery that she's a badass shooter and the sex was just release. We never saw Andrea ever again seek Shane's affections. In fact, Andrea called Shane out on his crazies several times and even tried to warn him that while he often made the right call, his brain was headed for Crazy Town. She even threatened to shoot him when he tried to kill Randall.

I actually really liked the way that Andrea handled the news of Shane's death and finding out the group didn't go back for her. All Andrea haters kept saying Andrea was going to be a bitch about Rick killing Shane and the group leaving her. But she handled both news spectacularly. She didn't care that the group left her for dead. She was just glad that Carol was alive. Her reaction to finding out about Shane's death wasn't, "omg dat bastard rick kiled my bf fuck him!!!!11" Her only concern was Rick and Shane's love and friendship. She even mourned for Lori. Good for her. Team Andrea.
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Loved Carol and Andrea. You just knew that Carol needed to thank Andrea for saving her and she wanted to do it in front of the whole group. Andrea is the only other woman alive from the first season and she and Carol went through a lot together. Carol's plan to have Andrea kill the governor might have worked but Andrea did not have a way to escape Woodbury.
Andrea is not redeemed but she is moving toward redemption. Killing the governor might not stop Prisonarmegaddon because Martinez would probably just take control. Martinez's first act will be to kill Andrea no matter how the Gov dies.
Loved Carl this week. Did not see a lot of Carl but that works for me.
Carl, Hershel, and Carol should be in charge, they have more sense than the rest.
Daryl should have given Carol some sympathy. She had to hide under a dead body while it was being riddled with bullets. It's always all about Daryl. Carol's telling Daryl that Merle wasn't good for him isn't news to Daryl, but seems to point to a Merle/Carol confrontation.
Daryl and Carol laughing together in their scene was great, I can't remember Daryl laughing at anything, he says funny things but never laughs himself.
Merle does add something to the mix, menace, more impending doom, and some humor.
Milton is a total pud. Hopeless wimp!
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Merle is as redeemable as Anakin/Vader. I mean Anakin kills younglings and later Obi Wan (kinda) but in the end he is redeemable when he saves Luke. So why can't Merle be redeemable if he does soemthing to save Glenn or Rick or Michonne in the end. I think Merle will have his showdown with the Gov. Rick and the gov have an indirect dispute but with Merle it is personal.

My $ 0.02.


Vader was not welcomed into the Millennium Falcon to fight along side princess Leia right after having interrogated her and blown up her home planet. Merle can be redeemable out on his own or with Daryl doing something noble to save Daryl .. but what did he do with Daryl ... try to rob a family with a baby... not exactly the kind of actions that warrant letting him be armed and free roaming with the prison group. stupid stupid writing. :-(
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A few things:

1) Several people are posting that Andrea is Woodbury's new leader. That isn't true. The Gov told her that he wanted her to be leader in order to manipulate her. The Gov can say that all he wants but the reality is plain to see. The town people are NOT following Andrea's lead, they are doing what the Gov says. Martinez is his second-in-command. Andrea obviously does not have any power at all and to say that she is the leader while the guards are gathering up people to fight and she doesn't know or approve is just silly. She's not the leader. Some of the people hope that she still has influence with TG, but that is all.

2) Andrea is a lost cause. She KNOWS TG is bad. She knows that everything Rick and Co. have said is true. She may have told herself that she was just sleeping with TG to try to kill him and she went through the motions but stopped. She does NOT want to join Rick and Co. at the prison. She likes the comfort of Woodbury. She described the prison's conditions as horrible. She does not want horrible. She likes her warm bed. Her looking out the window at the end is her realizing that she's willing to go along with TG's plans if it means staying in comfort. Remember - she wanted to off herself in season 1. She does NOT like living in the ZA. She wants cold drinks, warm beds and "normal." She will do anything to keep herself in comfort and now she knows it.

3) Carol's lines to Andrea about killing TG in his sleep were pure gold. What a way to show how far Carol has come!

4) The scene with Merle and Hershel is there to give the false impression that Merle is redeemable. He's not. He read the Bible to know his enemy, not to become a believer.

5) Michonne had the best line of the episode: "You traded a friend for a warm bed."

6) Rick is not going to Woodbury. Rick is going to try to find ammunition. He clearly said that.

7) It was disappointing to see Rick and Co. not trying to clear out the walkers in the yard. They could do it through the fence fairly easily. However, the walkers do create a kind of shield; if TG wants to attack them at close range, they have to go through the walkers to do it.

8) Milton is a total waste. He knows how evil TG is. He's so terrified of the new ZA world that he'll go along with anything TG says or does in order to stay under TG's protection.
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I don't think it's pointless. I think it makes perfect sense. They literally begged Rick's group to let them stay and they were thrown out. It was heartless. Rick came off as an arrogant, crazy, jerk. Then Milton and the Governor sweep in and give them a nice, clean place to stay. The Governor played the whole scene out perfectly when they talked abut Rick and his group. Notice he didn't push at all. He kept saying "You rest, we can talk about it tomorrow." He wanted them to know Rick's group had hurt them but he wanted them to think Ricks group instigated the whole thing and that Woodbury was innocent. He wanted them to join his side but he wanted them to believe it was their decision and that he would never pressure anyone. It was smart.


Strongly disagree about the Rick being arrogant part. Even though Rick came on strong, he eventually relented when Hershel spoke to him. Unfortunately, HallucioLori struck at the wrong time and Rick went bonkers. As someone above said, if Glenn had escorted Team Tyreese to a separate part of the prison and not let them go, then things would have turned out differently.
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Dammit Wukong!! You make some fantastic points about Merle's irrredeemability. Really hard to argue against that. :)

If only they had kept Merle locked up, then it would have lent some credibility to the writing.

A few things:

1) Several people are posting that Andrea is Woodbury's new leader. That isn't true. The Gov told her that he wanted her to be leader in order to manipulate her. The Gov can say that all he wants but the reality is plain to see. The town people are NOT following Andrea's lead, they are doing what the Gov says. Martinez is his second-in-command. Andrea obviously does not have any power at all and to say that she is the leader while the guards are gathering up people to fight and she doesn't know or approve is just silly. She's not the leader. Some of the people hope that she still has influence with TG, but that is all.

2) Andrea is a lost cause. She KNOWS TG is bad. She knows that everything Rick and Co. have said is true. She may have told herself that she was just sleeping with TG to try to kill him and she went through the motions but stopped. She does NOT want to join Rick and Co. at the prison. She likes the comfort of Woodbury. She described the prison's conditions as horrible. She does not want horrible. She likes her warm bed. Her looking out the window at the end is her realizing that she's willing to go along with TG's plans if it means staying in comfort. Remember - she wanted to off herself in season 1. She does NOT like living in the ZA. She wants cold drinks, warm beds and "normal." She will do anything to keep herself in comfort and now she knows it.


Totally agree with your first point.

Agree with the first part of your second point - Andrea not even thinking of rejoining Rick's group. The second part about Andrea looking out the window and realizing she is willing to go with the Governor's plans - this I disagree with. She will never go along with the Governor's plans. She may desire 'normal', but I don't think she will endorse murder to achieve that
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Do you think that the Guv accepting Andrea back into Woodbury (and his bed) is just a case of "Keep your enemies closer"?
He initially told her to stay at the prison if she went there. You'd think he be sleeping with one eye open (literally).

I thought so, to the point that I thought TG might open his eyes while Andrea was standing over him.

Warning: I'm drunk. And I'm a bitter drunk, but oddly eloquent.

The best thing about this episode? Mazzara has been fired and he won't get the chance to butcher another character, ever again.

So far he's ruined Michonne, Andrea, Tyreese, Allen, and Glenn for me. Next week we'll probably see Judith try to murder Carol, or something. I also don't get why he feels we'd give two shits about the people of Woodbury. If Milton or Karen were to die a horrific death next week, I wouldn't even blink. Milton used to have potential for me, but now I see he's just a clean dressed bitch. He's not even smart. All Karen does is whine. Just because the people of Woodbury have lines doesn't mean we're attached to them and care about them. The citizens of Woodbury are a complete waste of time. All we need is The Governor and Martinez. Everyone else should just be Central Casting employees.

Most of the writing doesn't even make sense or is just pointless. I don't care how many fighters are left in Woodbury. Just cut straight to Andrea confronting the Governor and her going off to the prison. Everything in between was a complete waste of time. Milton/Andrea scenes and Milton/Governor scenes. Noah. Fucking Karen. Total filler. Woodbury is like the paper tissue stuffing in a 14 year old girl's bra. Congratulations on your close up, arthritic lady, but I care about you so little that during your scene I checked out my Tumblr dash.

Andrea's visit to the prison should've lasted longer. She should've stayed there several days. SHE SHOULD'VE talked to Maggie and found out what the Governor tried to do to her. She should've called Michonne out on keeping secrets. She should've interacted more with Rick. I didn't need to see Andrea holding Judith. I needed to see Andrea sit down with Rick and put everything out on the table and clear the air, and maybe even make a plan. After all, Rick is the leader of the prison and Andrea is the leader of Woodbury. Why didn't anyone go, "hey, we're both leading these two groups, and we both have an enemy in common: The Governor. Let's just join forces and take him out and boom, happily ever after." How did that not happen?

Andrea clearly seduced the Governor to try to kill him. As per Carol, CAROL's, suggestion. Why didn't Rick try to sit down with Andrea and clear the air? Obviously Rick realized Andrea was being conned by the Governor, therefore his gentle treatment of her later on. But why wasn't Rick smart enough to see that he could've used Andrea as The Queen in this chess game and sit down with her and figure out where to move her? This plotline should've taken at least two episodes (at LEAST), it should've been more complex. How long was Andrea there, anyway? A minute? It was like she just showed up to deliver a pizza, collect her tip, and then leave.

The writing is so off that most of the fandom didn't get the fact that Andrea only slept with the Governor again because she was trying out Carol's plan. People seem to think that Andrea slept with the Governor again because she was back to Team Woodbury, when it was really obvious that Andrea was becoming a Mata Hari. Here's how easily, and quickly, that confusion could've been avoided:

Instead of all that Woodbury nonsense, the writers could've written a scene in which Andrea confesses once again to Rick that she didn't know what was going on and asks for his understanding. Rick sees that she's being honest and drops all hostility and realizes Andrea is still one of them. Andrea then mentions Carol's plan to Rick. She confesses she's never killed a person and she doesn't think she could, but she feels like she HAS to. Rick sympathizes with her struggles because he realizes Andrea killing the Governor would break her like him killing Shane did. So he tells her she doesn't have to kill the Governor for them, to just go back and lay low, stay tight, and he'll figure it out. Reassuring Andrea and giving her this advice and making her feel safe makes Rick feel confident, he starts to come out of his insanity, and Rick the leader starts to emerge yet again.

Instead there's music and Andrea just looks at everyone and everyone looks constipated and then she drives off.

This season is awful. Just because the fans asked for a faster pace doesn't mean you have to sacrifice character integrity. There's something really off about the priorities of Mazzara's writing. Loved Darabont. Reluctantly looking forward to Gimple. But these scripts, Christ. Awfulness. I was okay with Beth's singing in episode one because they'd found a place of peace and the moment called for it. But in this episode it seemed like a waste of time. At this point in the game we don't need to hear some singing. We need to see characters sit down and get to business. Glenn's line to Andrea: "that was days ago." Really? DAYS ago and the only character who yells at them to stop bitching and come up with a plan is BETH?

There's just no consistency when it comes to the characters. They keep changing in every episode. I'm so outraged about Tyreese I can't even think straight. I hate, HATE, the fact that Merle is back and walking round the prison when two episodes ago he was trying to kill Glenn and Michonne, and knew about the Governor trying to rape Maggie AND LET IT HAPPEN. But suddenly Daryl says Merle stays and Glenn and Michonne just fold? Murderer Merle who didn't care about Maggie being raped? Seriously? Is the Dixon pandering that severe?

The only character I feel has stayed consistent is Hershel. Bless him. He's quickly becoming my favorite. Everyone else... ugh, Mazzara. Just... ugh.

I agree 100%, especially with how Mazzara has handled the comic characters and I will even throw Lori into the mix. I am so glad that Mazzara is gone.
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Ehhh, it was ok.

Good points:

1. Hershel calling Rick on his lack of leadership. When he hollers at Rick to stop I just about wet my pants.
2. Michonne telling Andrea off for betraying their friendship. We finally got an inkling that Michonne has more to her than just being an angry black woman.

Bad points:

1. That god awful robot zombie they used when Andrea was chopping his arms off. It looked so fake with it's choppy head movements that it took me out of the story. I don't usually care about special effects, but that was just really bad. why did they need to make the entire zombie a prosthetic instead of just making the arms prosthetic. Even if it wasn't possible, seeing as how they don't have the budget to make it look right, they would've been better off cutting out that scene altogether.
2. Andrea. Goodness, I thought she couldn't get any more silly.

And the following isn't bad or good, since i have mixed feelings about it.

Merle. I think they have completely screwed up the writing of his character. I prefer the Merle that isn't a cliche. We've seenbits and pieces of him (in Woodbury), talking to Hershel. I really like him when he's not some one dimensional stereotype of a Southern racist man. But they have played that out sooooo much and to such an extreme, that it really detracts from the show when they fall back on him being more well rounded like they did last night. I like him better that way, but I can't ignore the fact that it doesn't fit into how they portrayed him before.
Which is a shame, because Merle could be one of the best characters in the show.
Even so, I'm happy with how they protrayed him last night, and i wish they would stick with it.

Oh, I forgot one more thing. The whole Tyreese plotline. I think they really screwed up by having him thrown out and end up with the Woodbury gang. We get it, Rick is an idiot when it comes to leadership, you don't have to slap us in the face with example after example. Tyrese seems like a really moral upstanding guy, and if he does in fact end up helping the Governor then they really lost an opportunity. IMO, A prison vs. Woodbury fight would be more interesting with Tyrese fighting for the prison.
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Vader was not welcomed into the Millennium Falcon to fight along side princess Leia right after having interrogated her and blown up her home planet. Merle can be redeemable out on his own or with Daryl doing something noble to save Daryl .. but what did he do with Daryl ... try to rob a family with a baby... not exactly the kind of actions that warrant letting him be armed and free roaming with the prison group. stupid stupid writing. :-(


Haha I see your point. But both Vader and Merle are missing their hand:)
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So I`m sitting here today talking with my coworkers wondering why none of the people at the prison think like I do. They are talking about all the ammo they would use killing the walkers in the field. The redneck in me says get in the damm truck TG left for you and run over every one of them a couple times. Then go park the truck in front of the open gate to keep more from coming in. Now you have access to the guard towers again. As for the episode it was ok with some good moments.
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This was poorly written pandering to the Dixon brother interaction. The very fact that they would take in Merle and not even have his murderous ass locked up is unbelievable. They even gave him a weapon!! To only have the one plea by Glenn to Rick that 'I wouldn't make you sleep with Shane after he tried to kill you' . I call hip deep BS! GLENN saved Rick's sorry ass in Atlanta. Glenn has been a valuable member to the group and the very fact that they would take Merle back so quickly and so freely makes me so angry at the writers. How can you screw up something so badly! Having even Hershel make some comment in Merle's defense about his Military training is BS! Not after he was taking your 'most precious thing in the world' to be executed!!! REALLY! I am supposed to buy this??? Oh yeah I forgot - wave the magic wand and Merle is redeemed. Forget the need to write credible story lines



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Andrea clearly seduced the Governor to try to kill him. As per Carol, CAROL's, suggestion.

I agree with everything that you said, EXCEPT for this. Andrea didnt seduce him at all, infact i think it was the other way around. The Gov had been drinking and made that whole "you belong here" comment to make her feel all special before he moved in for the little make out session. Andrea, being the stupid little C word that she is, temporarily fell under his little love spell. Seems to me that the thought of killing him didnt cross her mind under afterwards while laying there in the dark. We all knew she wouldn't really do it anyways. The Gov has her right where he wants her!
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Haha I see your point. But both Vader and Merle are missing their hand:)


Oh god is Merle Carl/Judith/Rick OH NO not Glenn's father??? ha ha
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Carol just wants to get laid. Understandable. She must be all dried up down there after going without any action for so long.

She needs someone to wet her whistle. If you know what I'm sayin'.


Your amazement and annoyance as to why people down vote you astonishes me when I see comments like this. Just sayin.

Anyways, I really did like this episode. The Tyreese at Woodbury twist was nice, but I hope they do not stay and fight for TG. He is such a spirited and good-natured character in the comic, I would hate to see him ruined on the TV show.
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Goddammit, I wanted to like Martinez.


He's reading this right now and thinking "Damn! I shouldn't have taken my cap off. One look at that receding hairline and the chicks turn on me!!! I should have just kept shooting them and left my cap on- then they'd still love me."
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This might be my favorite episode of the season so far. Everything just came together really well. Gonna do the standard, good points, bad points thing because it's easier to break it down.

Good points:

For me, Andrea was very likable in this episode. I found myself feeling bad for her in quite a few circumstances. She got treated like crap from everyone but Carol, and what has she done to deserve it? If the group hadn't of abandoned her in the first place, she'd of never met the Gov, been at death's door and had to turn to Woodbury. Plus all that crap Michonne was saying was garbage, if Michonne really knew what the Gov was like all along and 'could see it', why didn't she do a decent job of presenting Andrea with all these facts she had. She chose not to actually pursaude Andrea to leave because of the fact that saying more than two sentences every episode, cramps her style.

Carol, I loved her little speech to Andrea. Not quite sure why it involved sleeping with him first but I approve. Also the warmth she showed her, acknowledging that Andrea saved her and letting her hold Judith. Also the little chat she had with Daryl was cute. I still would hate to see those two together, but I do love their friendship. Carol has totally changed my opinion of her this season.

No Lori hallucinations!

Tyreese group joining Woodbury. I know many people see this as a bad thing because it technically is, but it'll make for interesting viewing and it's only natural that they should not be on Rick's side after the way he treated them. I think having them fall into Woodbury is a stroke of genius. Looking forward to seeing how it plays out.

Merle's dialogue was quite interesting. It's fun to see him interact with Rick's group after everything that's happened. I still don't like his character though.

Even though I have really gone off Michonne and much of this episodes dialogue has contributed to that, I did appreciate that she said a bit more than usual. I have to agree with the messiah complex comment she made. I think that's the real point to this. Andrea isn't so much under the Govs spell as she is under the impression that she can save the people of Woodbury. I think she's appointed herself as Woodbury's second leader and it's given her a complex.

The song at the end really made the last scene seem better than it was.

Bad Points:

The way the entire group, aside from Carol, treated Andrea.

Michonne. I am really starting to dislike her. Everything about her. Saying that crap to Andrea was the final straw, fair enough if she feels like that but accept some responsibility for the matter. I strongly believe if Michonne had bothered to tell Andrea the whole truth, she would have left alongside her. The bit about coming back to get revenge on the Gov and 'hurt' Andrea with the truth was just pretty. The more I watch her the more I liken her to a moody teenager.

Milton. Backstab Andrea? Bring on your slow death.

The surrealsim that is Andrea's hair. Unless Woodbury has a top stylist and plenty of hair dye and curling tongs. Then it still doesn't explain the pre-woodbury times. Also, I think the prison must have a secret salon somewhere because Daryl is clearly a regular.
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She doesn't need a stylist. She's a natural blonde with curly hair. They do occur IRL.
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