#201
10 August 2013 - 11:11 PM
#202
11 August 2013 - 12:13 AM
#203
11 August 2013 - 12:14 AM
Popular or not, Daryl will eventually need to die for the story. I hope they have the balls to do it when it needs to be done.
There's the question of whether he needs to die and then there's the question of whether AMC, as an increasingly competitive and desperate business (especially now with Breaking Bad going out the door), will be willing to take that kind of a risk now.
#204
11 September 2013 - 07:15 PM
#205
11 September 2013 - 09:35 PM
#206
12 September 2013 - 10:27 AM
In my opinion, Abraham is a much more complex and well-written character than Daryl ever was. Sure, Daryl is 'Fit' and, sadly, I think that's why he has such a big fan base, and he's a bad ass, but after season 1 the writers just turned him into redneck teenage girl bait.
Well, then there is the fact that Norman LOVES his fans.
Every time we see him at cons, he's always taking pictures of the audience and such and is always smiling and seems to have an really good time just admiring the audience, all whilst the others are busy talking about the work they are doing.
That has ALOT to do with WHY he is so loved by fans.
Because he loves them back equally.
And having someone that is so capable of relating to the fans....that is one of the things that appeal the Daryl fans.
Say what you want about Daryl Dixon, but Norman Reedus is the coolest. There is no denying that.
#207
12 September 2013 - 12:27 PM
"Let the slaughter begin..."
#208
12 September 2013 - 10:56 PM
There's the question of whether he needs to die and then there's the question of whether AMC, as an increasingly competitive and desperate business (especially now with Breaking Bad going out the door), will be willing to take that kind of a risk now.
AMC doesn't have a reputation for sticking with what works.
It's quite the opposite.
They fired Frank Darabont.
Then they fired Mazzara. I know many people here don't like Mazzara, and that's fine, but the viewership was at an all-time high with him as show runner.
They fired him anyway.
I've also read things hinting that Breaking Bad is being cut short, due to tensions between AMC and Vince Gilligan. Based on he most recent episode and plot developments, I can believe that.
To me, the show is starting to feel rushed at this point like they're trying to hurry and wrap it up.
My point is that AMC would not hesitate to give anyone the axe, no matter how important or valuable they are. In fact, it almost seems that, in any given situation, the goose laying the golden egg is first to be on the chopping block.
You say the network is desperate, and they are. I think that these are the reasons.
Having said that, I think that Daryl is less important than some people think.
Shield yourself from those not bound to you by steel, for they are the blind. Aid them when you can, but lose not sight of yourself.
#209
16 September 2013 - 10:06 PM
I don't think so. Not by any stretch of the imagination.I've also read things hinting that Breaking Bad is being cut short, due to tensions between AMC and Vince Gilligan. Based on he most recent episode and plot developments, I can believe that.
To me, the show is starting to feel rushed at this point like they're trying to hurry and wrap it up.
Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?
#210
20 September 2013 - 05:24 PM
#211
21 September 2013 - 05:40 PM
This would be true and would be the case if he didn't join the group on their escapades through the zombie ridden world, but instead he did join them and he's always putting his life on the front lines to protect the group so if this show was actually realistic (which it hasn't been in Season 3), then Daryl would have the highest chance of dieing out of anyone or he'd probably be dead by now.
But he is AMC's cashcow, and story doesn't matter to them as he long he swoons in the fangirls.
AMC's quote is "Story Matters Here" but this isn't the case at all with the Walking Dead. No way.
A show like The Walking Dead would be willing to kill characters like Daryl Dixon for the story to progress to keep things interesting, but no.
Like another user said, Daryl has lost his edge he had in Seasons 1 + 2. Season 3 he is just there to kill zombies and look good doing it, there's nothing special about him.
There's nothing that can be done with his character at this point, everything has run it's course even Merle now that he is dead. I don't ship Caryl either, Caryl should have happened at the end of Season 2 or beginning of Season 3. Would have made the story with Merle returning all the more interesting.
It's sad that Daryl will probably be here forever on the show, and if he doesn't die by Season 5 then he probably won't die at all. Unless they kept him for Negan, that would be epic. Greatest TV death ever if Negan killed Daryl but then the guy playing him would probably get death threats.
I think the perfect death for Daryl would have been the Prison Assault, but with Merle. Watching the two brothers go down together fighting would have been epic to watch. But now Merle is dead, what a shame...
I would have killed Daryl in Season 3 instead. We all saw Daryl's reaction in Season 1 to Merle going missing and possibly to him being dead, wouldn't it have been great to twist it around and show Merle's reaction to Daryl's death?
#212
21 September 2013 - 05:45 PM
Spike: Buffy ran you through with a sword.
Angel: Yeah, but I made her do it. Signaled her with my eyes.
Spike: She killed you. I helped her. That one counts as mine.
#213
21 September 2013 - 07:23 PM
I don't know why everyone thinks Daryl won't die just because he is prepared for what the world has become. Is he? Sure, he is a survivalist, no denying that.
Not everyone thinks that Daryl will survive because he is prepared. Many people, myself included, believe that if Daryl survives, it will be because AMC thinks the show needs him. Just for the record, I don't think the show needs Daryl. I think the show could survive without Daryl.
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#214
21 September 2013 - 11:34 PM
Not everyone thinks that Daryl will survive because he is prepared. Many people, myself included, believe that if Daryl survives, it will be because AMC thinks the show needs him. Just for the record, I don't think the show needs Daryl. I think the show could survive without Daryl.
Oh no, I was just saying that a lot of people seem to think that, not everyone.
But I agree with you, the show doesn't need Daryl anymore, it could survive without him. He was cool in the first two seasons but his time has come and gone. AMC doesn't really think the show needs Daryl...they think they need Daryl.
#215
22 September 2013 - 03:45 AM
But he is AMC's cashcow, and story doesn't matter to them as he long he swoons in the fangirls.
I don't think this is necessarily true. I mean, they've canned two show runners so far, two show runners who presided over two very successful seasons, at least in terms of viewership. Not rocking the boat for fear of fan reaction really doesn't seem to guide their thought process (or at least not completely). I honestly don't know what does, to be honest.
Just for the record, I don't think the show needs Daryl. I think the show could survive without Daryl.
I don't think so either. I think the show would do just fine without him.
I'm still not ruling out his death in season four though.
Shield yourself from those not bound to you by steel, for they are the blind. Aid them when you can, but lose not sight of yourself.
#216
21 October 2013 - 02:40 AM
#217
21 October 2013 - 03:20 AM
Doesn't really excite me personally.
Shield yourself from those not bound to you by steel, for they are the blind. Aid them when you can, but lose not sight of yourself.
#218
21 October 2013 - 03:35 AM
He'll die at the end of the prison story arc.
He'll getSpoiler
It wont be heroic, it'll be gut wrenching, and sad. But it'll set the mood, kind of the Worf effect. When Darryl dies like that people will know that the excrement just left the realm of theoretical speculation.
This seems so plausible that I'm actually hoping it goes along the lines of this theory.
#219
21 October 2013 - 03:40 AM
He'll die at the end of the prison story arc.
He'll getSpoiler
It wont be heroic, it'll be gut wrenching, and sad. But it'll set the mood, kind of the Worf effect. When Darryl dies like that people will know that the excrement just left the realm of theoretical speculation.
I've been hoping for that since the middle of last season.
#220
21 October 2013 - 04:51 AM
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21 October 2013 - 05:18 AM
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21 October 2013 - 05:25 AM
#223
21 October 2013 - 11:33 AM
#224
21 October 2013 - 07:13 PM
I don't know the behind-the-scenes politics of the Walking Dead.
But in other shows, the lead actor's opinion carries some weight when it comes to deciding who stays and who goes.
Shield yourself from those not bound to you by steel, for they are the blind. Aid them when you can, but lose not sight of yourself.
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