#26
05 November 2012 - 08:31 PM
#27
05 November 2012 - 08:31 PM
I think she only started pushing so soon because she was starting to panic. I've had two babies and I didn't start pushing THAT soon, even if both of my labors and deliveries were short (6 for the first, 4 hours for the second, about three pushes for both babies). So short labor and deliveries do happen, I think she was just in full freak out mode.
I agree, it felt like she went, "OMG contractions! Time to push!"
Either of the women should have known better. They should have waited to check her dilation, while calming. Deep breaths, laying somewhat down, keep from panic and hyperventilation, and let her body prepare for labor. They both freaked out, and it probably killed Lori.
#28
05 November 2012 - 08:37 PM
I think she only started pushing so soon because she was starting to panic. I've had two babies and I didn't start pushing THAT soon, even if both of my labors and deliveries were short (6 for the first, 4 hours for the second, about three pushes for both babies). So short labor and deliveries do happen, I think she was just in full freak out mode.
Oh I know very short labor and deliveries do happen..my best friend had a 3 hour start-to-finish labour! But that isn't in the same ballpark as having a couple of contractions and then randomly deciding to push.
As a side note - there was nothing wrong with Lori trying to labour standing up. Laying down is one of the worst ways to labour and deliver. They only do it that way in the hospital because it is easier for the doc/nurses to see what is going on.
#29
05 November 2012 - 08:37 PM
#30
05 November 2012 - 08:38 PM
#31
05 November 2012 - 08:43 PM
It was an amazing scene, I could feel Lori's fear, Carl's fear and Maggie's fear separately, and that last scene with Rick breaking down...man, it broke my heart all of them did an amazing job! I'm kinda worried on how the baby will survive though...I highly doubt they can find any formula and if they do, it most likely would be spoiled by now , AND they would have to find a heck lot of formula. I've read that maybe one of the girls could be a 'wet nurse' for the baby but I just don't picture the writers going in that direction, but once again...it's The Walking Dead so who knows!
Well acted by all of them, even Carl.
Powder formula could go a long time without spoiling.
And one of the other girls would either need hormone treatment or have to have a baby herself to wet nurse the baby.
#32
05 November 2012 - 08:44 PM
Operative phrase being, "I think," since it's been ... sheesh, 8 years since my last kid was born.
#33
05 November 2012 - 08:45 PM
#34
05 November 2012 - 08:46 PM
Well acted by all of them, even Carl.
Powder formula could go a long time without spoiling.
And one of the other girls would either need hormone treatment or have to have a baby herself to wet nurse the baby.
Actually, no - I've been looking it up on line, and apparently just simple stimulation can do it, although I'm sure it takes time. I was also thinking that in terms of hormones, Maggie just got a big dose of adrenalin and probably some hormones from going through what she just had to do.
#35
05 November 2012 - 08:49 PM
Actually, no - I've been looking it up on line, and apparently just simple stimulation can do it, although I'm sure it takes time. I was also thinking that in terms of hormones, Maggie just got a big dose of adrenalin and probably some hormones from going through what she just had to do.
Whoa, I just looked it up and you are right. I retract my statement.
#36
05 November 2012 - 08:49 PM
When it is time to push you feel you have to push. Her saying "I need to push" was very realistic, although the time it took to get there was not. However with it being a TV show, I am glad they skipped over the couple of hours of just sitting there watching her in pain as the contractions worked. THis is a show about the ZA and not "A Baby Story" afterall.
Yeah, I get that. A realistic time-frame would have been hard to swing on the show.
About pushing though...sure, her feeling the need to push was realistic, but that ISN'T always a good time to start pushing. Sometimes they will tell you it isn't time to push, or to stop pushing, because you are not dilated enough. I just thought it was lame that a couple of contractions + unknown dilation= "time to push"
#37
05 November 2012 - 08:49 PM
#38
05 November 2012 - 08:51 PM
Who is going to have milk in their breasts? It's not produced untill you have a baby.
/sigh, OK, I've opened the can of worms now (here and in another thread). (And, I'm sighing because I think I've already brought up topics I shouldn't in other threads .... )
Anyway, look up the Wikipedia page on Wet Nurse:
It was once believed that a wet-nurse must have recently undergone childbirth. This is not necessarily true, as regular breast suckling can elicit lactation via a neural reflex of prolactin production and secretion. Some adoptive mothers have been able to establish lactation using a breast pump so that they could feed an adopted infant.
There are other pages, too, on "lactation without pregnancy," for example. Man, really glad I'm not at a job that has Internet filters right now!
Edit: Heh, took too long to post, others beat me to it. But, yeah, that's the way they should go, but I think it that for story purposes (motivation, driving the action), they'll probably have to out at least in the short-term and find some powdered formula. Heck, they're always finding cars with empty baby seats in them, it seems, one of them should have something in it.
#39
05 November 2012 - 08:51 PM
Yeah, I get that. A realistic time-frame would have been hard to swing on the show.
About pushing though...sure, her feeling the need to push was realistic, but that ISN'T always a good time to start pushing. Sometimes they will tell you it isn't time to push, or to stop pushing, because you are not dilated enough. I just thought it was lame that a couple of contractions + unknown dilation= "time to push"
I agree, but I think it was due to time constraints of needing to get the baby out so they could kill her off. :-P
#40
05 November 2012 - 08:51 PM
Actually, no - I've been looking it up on line, and apparently just simple stimulation can do it, although I'm sure it takes time. I was also thinking that in terms of hormones, Maggie just got a big dose of adrenalin and probably some hormones from going through what she just had to do.
Even a man can lactate, did you know that? Gross, but there it is.
I don't see it being realistic that Maggie or Beth would suddenly start lactating, but it's possible. The hormone to produce milk is prolactin, if I remember correctly. Too lazy to look it up!
#41
05 November 2012 - 08:52 PM
/sigh, OK, I've opened the can of worms now (here and in another thread). (And, I'm sighing because I think I've already brought up topics I shouldn't in other threads .... )
Anyway, look up the Wikipedia page on Wet Nurse:
There are other pages, too, on "lactation without pregnancy," for example. Man, really glad I'm not at a job that has Internet filters right now!
Already admitted to being wrong about that, but I will again. :-)
I WAS WRONG!!!!!!!!!!
#42
05 November 2012 - 08:56 PM
Heh, I know, I tried to edit after posting. Not wrong so much, as, heck not everyone is (a) a trivia junky like me, or ( has ever had to think about stuff like this. My head if full of generally useless or trivial info that just might come in handy some day in the event of the ZA, but otherwise just clutters my head.Already admitted to being wrong about that, but I will again. :-)
I WAS WRONG!!!!!!!!!!
Edit: Oh, yeah, my wife has brought up the male lactation thing before. Another fun fact to know and tell.
#43
05 November 2012 - 08:58 PM
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#49
05 November 2012 - 09:04 PM
On the topic of formula, I wonder how easily they'll find any. It seems in most natural disasters (thinking Katrina and Sandy) diapers and formula are always at the top of the list the Red Cross or whoever is asking people to donate. Now they can cloth diaper the baby, but I would think that the stores would be cleared of formula pretty early on in the epidemic when the world was going to hell.
This is a good point.
#50
05 November 2012 - 09:26 PM
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