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View Postjourneynsolace, on 26 May 2012 - 04:59 AM, said:


I remember mentioning The Stand in that post because of how King had described the "second wave" of deaths of people who were immune to Captain Trips but then died of things like appendicitis or just general accidents. That was one of my favorite parts of the book, and I'd love to see that in The Walking Dead.

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View Postbackwoodsroamer, on 25 May 2012 - 10:07 PM, said:

Now think about the group in TWD. Do any of them have high blood pressure, diabetes, thyroid disease, a heart condition? What if they develop these conditions? What if Lori's baby is born with a birth defect. What if one of them gets appendicitis? What if they develop a simple infection with no antibiotics available?  What about dental care? What if one of them needs glasses to correct their vision.

Now the vision correction aspect is what bothers me. IIRC, Hershel and Dale were the only ones to wear glasses at all, out of ALL of the survivors, and those were just for reading. Come ON...in the contemporary world, with computer screens impairing vision left and right, more often than not, people of all ages need some sort of vision correction, whether it's contact lenses or occasional near-sighted glasses use for driving and seeing distant objects, you would think that at least some of the younger people on the show would need some kind of corrective vision.

It would make for an interesting subplot, too--like if one of the characters was surrounded by zombies and had difficulty putting them down because he or she couldn't see them that well without his/her glasses or contacts. Writers need to think this stuff through. :P

And speaking of everyday medical conditions, what about when women get their periods? All of the women on the show (even Carol) are of pre-menopausal age, and none of them worry about where to get tampons or pads and where they can change them in private when it's their time of the month? And what about headaches and PMS and taking care of all the nastiness that comes with that inconvenient truth? :P I always wondered how

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As a woman, all I can say is thank goodness we don't live in a ZA and it's just a figment of many writers' and directors' imaginations. Cal me an American priss, but I wouldn't last for a month without hot showers, running toilets, and a nearby grocery store! :P

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View PostWalkerBaitress, on 26 May 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

Now the vision correction aspect is what bothers me. IIRC, Hershel and Dale were the only ones to wear glasses at all, out of ALL of the survivors, and those were just for reading. Come ON...in the contemporary world, with computer screens impairing vision left and right, more often than not, people of all ages need some sort of vision correction, whether it's contact lenses or occasional near-sighted glasses use for driving and seeing distant objects, you would think that at least some of the younger people on the show would need some kind of corrective vision.

It would make for an interesting subplot, too--like if one of the characters was surrounded by zombies and had difficulty putting them down because he or she couldn't see them that well without his/her glasses or contacts. Writers need to think this stuff through. :P

And speaking of everyday medical conditions, what about when women get their periods? All of the women on the show (even Carol) are of pre-menopausal age, and none of them worry about where to get tampons or pads and where they can change them in private when it's their time of the month? And what about headaches and PMS and taking care of all the nastiness that comes with that inconvenient truth? :P I always wondered how

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As a woman, all I can say is thank goodness we don't live in a ZA and it's just a figment of many writers' and directors' imaginations. Cal me an American priss, but I wouldn't last for a month without hot showers, running toilets, and a nearby grocery store! :P


I like what you say about the glasses.. I keep thinking of the end of that one Twilight Zone episode where the man is so happy to finally be alone to read all the books... and then breaks his glasses. I'd be picking up glasses wherever I could find them, trying to find ones that were close to my prescription so I'd have backups, and I'd be taking such good care of my glasses, you'd think they were gold.

I agree too about the feminine hygiene issue. The writers wouldn't have to be explicit about it, but maybe just one scene of the women being REALLY happy to find a box of tampons in a store.

I know people have been around for ages without these things, but after basic food and shelter, along with protection from the zombie predators, providing for these types of "comforts" would be my first priority, so it would be interesting to see the show address these more mundane aspects of survival.

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View Postjourneynsolace, on 26 May 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

I like what you say about the glasses.. I keep thinking of the end of that one Twilight Zone episode where the man is so happy to finally be alone to read all the books... and then breaks his glasses. I'd be picking up glasses wherever I could find them, trying to find ones that were close to my prescription so I'd have backups, and I'd be taking such good care of my glasses, you'd think they were gold.

I agree too about the feminine hygiene issue. The writers wouldn't have to be explicit about it, but maybe just one scene of the women being REALLY happy to find a box of tampons in a store.

I know people have been around for ages without these things, but after basic food and shelter, along with protection from the zombie predators, providing for these types of "comforts" would be my first priority, so it would be interesting to see the show address these more mundane aspects of survival.

View PostWalkerBaitress, on 26 May 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

Now the vision correction aspect is what bothers me. IIRC, Hershel and Dale were the only ones to wear glasses at all, out of ALL of the survivors, and those were just for reading. Come ON...in the contemporary world, with computer screens impairing vision left and right, more often than not, people of all ages need some sort of vision correction, whether it's contact lenses or occasional near-sighted glasses use for driving and seeing distant objects, you would think that at least some of the younger people on the show would need some kind of corrective vision.

It would make for an interesting subplot, too--like if one of the characters was surrounded by zombies and had difficulty putting them down because he or she couldn't see them that well without his/her glasses or contacts. Writers need to think this stuff through. :P

And speaking of everyday medical conditions, what about when women get their periods? All of the women on the show (even Carol) are of pre-menopausal age, and none of them worry about where to get tampons or pads and where they can change them in private when it's their time of the month? And what about headaches and PMS and taking care of all the nastiness that comes with that inconvenient truth? :P I always wondered how

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As a woman, all I can say is thank goodness we don't live in a ZA and it's just a figment of many writers' and directors' imaginations. Cal me an American priss, but I wouldn't last for a month without hot showers, running toilets, and a nearby grocery store! :P

I always think about the vision problems, because my vision is rather poor. Being in a dangerous situation is bad. Being in that situation while nearly blind is terrifying. Whenever I get a new glasses prescription, I buy one nice pair and some contacts. Then I buy a few cheap, sturdy, plastic "birth control" glasses to cache like a squirrel hoarding nuts.

As for feminine hygiene. There must be two types of women. Those that are perfectly proportioned with huge breasts, no body hair, suction cup lips, and a gleaming porcelain white smile. These women never ever pee, poop, burp, pass gas, or have periods. Then there are real women. I like the real women. They're much more interesting.  

Hot showers are more than a luxury. Poor personal hygiene can lead to numerous health issues particularly skin problems. Jungle rot and crotch crud are two things you do not want to experience.

Improper toilets lead to things like cholera, typhoid fever, dysentery, etc. Which leads to things like being dead.

No grocery stores, unless you have access to something like military MREs, are a road to malnutrition and vitamin deficiencies. These lead once again to that death thing.  



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I don't really think in those terms. I don't want anyone to die, exactly. I just know that it's going to happen because this is a show about a zombie apocalypse.  And in order for the show to have an emotional impact, they have to kill off characters we like every once in a while.  If they only kill "red shirts" then it's dumb. (red shirts meaning minor characters who end up being zombie food).

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Up until the second last episode everyone from the "group" died after getting bit..except Jaqui of course and (Jim...I'm pretty sure the humane is gone)....I supposse upcoming deaths for group members who were not bit will be more traumatic and horiffic... I'm just guessing here cause I havent read the books....Shanes death was a bigger impact on the group perhapse because the group saw it as just killing instead of stopping the spread of the ZA... I can see how season 3 will get a lot darker for everyone.

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View PostDeadpelican, on 26 May 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

I don't really think in those terms. I don't want anyone to die, exactly. I just know that it's going to happen because this is a show about a zombie apocalypse.  And in order for the show to have an emotional impact, they have to kill off characters we like every once in a while.  If they only kill "red shirts" then it's dumb. (red shirts meaning minor characters who end up being zombie food).

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That being said, I still want to see Carl die, as it would relieve me of ever having to watch his character again. But I'm not sure I would like the repercussions his death would have on Rick or the group. Which is why, if the writers are going to kill anyone off, I hope they show the effects it's going to have on certain characters. i.e. When Sophia died, I was extremely surprised at the profound affect it had on Daryl, that was good writing. Opinions?
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No one likes seeing children. The moment Sophia came out of the barn was pretty sad because you always expect children to be safe on T.V shows. If it was any other show they would've found her all safe and sound. Killing people off like that really stirs up your emotions. That's how good TWD is. Similar feelings arose when Amy died. Not too much Dale for me because I sort of expected it sooner or later maybe given his age and all. However, Carl annoys the hell out of me and I wouldn't be upset if they killed him off. I also hate how the show focuses on him so much and their family drama. It's a hard call to know what would happen to Rick. Personally I think it would make his character weaker and something viewers wouldn't want to see. He would probably be less committed to being the group leader and keeping them safe by feeling even more like a failure.

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:rolleyes: Your one of THOSE people about Walking Dead. The Walking Dead is different than other zombie media because, the story isn't concentrated on killing zombies with a baseball bat on fire wrapped in barbed wire. Its about characters, and how they interact with each other in a setting that we couldn't even imagine. When characters die, you feel like you lost somebody. When a zombie dies, you don't even bat an eyelash.

Its really odd, how Walking Dead fans of the TV series have divided into a sub group of people complaining about lack of action. Walking Dead isn't about action. It never has been. Killing zombies is a side-plot to the show.

On another note... Yes... We all want Carl to die. But, there is no chance in hell they are going to kill him unless they decide to go complete ape shit and kill Carl instead of...
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Yeah, I am one of  those TWD watchers who are more interested in characters and their stories than endless scenes of gore! Not that an occasional zombie doesn't add to the suspense, but too many deaths just numb you. I hated that Sophia had to be put down, but I wasn't really attached. Carl shouldn't die, but he nerds to be chained  at  least one parent at all time. Let TDogg take a car to the coast. And leave Carol and Lori  alone. I like Carol and the presence of Lori verifies that Rick has made bad decisions in the past and should  listen to others once in awhile.

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View PostLuv2readt., on 25 May 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

I wouldn't care if Merle kicked off, but I am tired of watching funerals. Let's just kill some zombies for a change. I would love a season with lots of action but no more deaths of "the group".


View PostLuv2readt., on 28 May 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:

Yeah, I am one of  those TWD watchers who are more interested in characters and their stories than endless scenes of gore! Not that an occasional zombie doesn't add to the suspense, but too many deaths just numb you. I hated that Sophia had to be put down, but I wasn't really attached. Carl shouldn't die, but he nerds to be chained  at  least one parent at all time. Let TDogg take a car to the coast. And leave Carol and Lori  alone. I like Carol and the presence of Lori verifies that Rick has made bad decisions in the past and should  listen to others once in awhile.

What a contradiction. :P

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I dont really want anyone to die because i actually have humanity and even if their not real people, they are still people.

I do think the show could do without Lori, she brings nothing but stupidity. She is very strong willed but not in the right areas.
T-dog doesnt do anything but im hoping they give him more screen time. We were informed he would so i have high hopes for him.
I do believe Beth will go soon. I think she only survived to bite it next season.

Who i think will die=Carol, Lori,Hershal, Beth, and T-dog by the time they leave the prison.
Surviviors=Michonne, Andrea, Rick, Daryl, Maggie, and GLenn from the characters we know so far.

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i dont like Lori or Carl, im ok with Carol but if she hooks up with Daryll I will find a way 2 write myself into the show & kill her myself lmfao
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Maybe Daryl will bite it before Carol, awesome character like that gets old too fast sadly

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Who do I want to see die?

Everyone. Would make for an interesting twist.
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Why does everyone hate Carl? I fucking love him lol.
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View PostDylan, on 21 June 2012 - 07:15 AM, said:

Why does everyone hate Carl? I fucking love him lol.

The one episode where he decided to douchebag everything and kill dale changed pretty much everyone's minds.

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View PostMelquiades Estrada, on 21 June 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:

Maybe Daryl will bite it before Carol, awesome character like that gets old too fast sadly

NO! That would be a terrible idea. Daryl has to die at some point, but not yet, his journey has just started at this point.

View PostBro, on 21 June 2012 - 07:26 AM, said:

The one episode where he decided to douchebag everything and kill dale changed pretty much everyone's minds.

Oh come on, I really think some are way too hard on a kid. He's 11/12, what do you expect? If anyone is to blame for what he does is Lori, and the fact that she thinks is perfectly fine for Carl to be randomly babysit by anyone except herself. And he didn't kill Dale, even though he did make a mistake. He'll learn from it, he seems smart and pretty brave (verging reckless) too. I like him.

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View PostDaisy, on 21 June 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

NO! That would be a terrible idea. Daryl has to die at some point, but not yet, his journey has just started at this point.



Oh come on, I really think some are way too hard on a kid. He's 11/12, what do you expect? If anyone is to blame for what he does is Lori, and the fact that she thinks is perfectly fine for Carl to be randomly babysit by anyone except herself. And he didn't kill Dale, even though he did make a mistake. He'll learn from it, he seems smart and pretty brave (verging reckless) too. I like him.


I agree, Daryl may someday die, but there is far to much potential for character development to let him go anytime soon.

I can't say much about Carl that you haven't already said, Daisy. There is just one thing, and I have no evidence to support my theory. I think Carl is the key to TWD universe. As a child he is humanity's last great hope for survival.

He is the first generation to mature after the dead rose. He is the first of the generation that will learn to survive as children. As such he has the potential to be the man that leads the fight to take Earth back from the dead.  


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View Postbackwoodsroamer, on 21 June 2012 - 10:25 AM, said:

I agree, Daryl may someday die, but there is far to much potential for character development to let him go anytime soon.

I can't say much about Carl that you haven't already said, Daisy. There is just one thing, and I have no evidence to support my theory. I think Carl is the key to TWD universe. As a child he is humanity's last great hope for survival.

He is the first generation to mature after the dead rose. He is the first of the generation that will learn to survive as children. As such he has the potential to be the man that leads the fight to take Earth back from the dead.  



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I too think he's the future, if TWD was ever to end and it will have to at some point, I would be perfectly happy for (a slightly older- teen 16/17) Carl to be the "last man standing" so to speak.
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As far as this upcoming season goes, I wouldn't mind seeing Lori go. And Carol only after she serves more of a purpose, which is hinted at with her continually growing relationship  with Daryl. Hmm...also Herschel, and I would love it if T-Dog were killed and then properly replaced by Tyreese, since two consistent black characters isn't really a thing on the show. (Which is funny - aren't they near Atlanta?

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Personally, I really really hope Carol comes into her own. I connected with her back in Season 1, especially with her background history with Ed, and only continued to love her as season 2 progressed. Daryl, Carol, and Andrea are my favorite characters, so if any one of them died in a way that wasn't imperative to the story, I'd be disappointed. But big characters do have to bite the dust at some point for it to maintain the reality of the ZA. With that being said, I think that Carl (children on TV shows in general) is just an annoying character! Even more so than Lori is annoying, and that's saying something! If I had to pick, it would have to be Lori and Carl, because I think they just bring Rick down. He is such a complex character, and no doubt, they add to his complexity, but they're just so darn idiotic at times! HMPH!
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