[Serenity@sea]

Ciren's thread influenced Bab's thread about Lori and Shane, which got me thinking about when Rick actually knew about Lori and Shane (I must be really bored, LOL)

Was there a scene where you knew that he knew?

For me, it was hindsight and re-watching Season 1, because I was somewhat surprised when Rick told Lori he knew about those two. That scene was a little anti-climatic for me, because I thought Rick would have shown more anger. That made me think that he had known about it for awhile. That he had some time to process it. Because even if he had logically processed that Lori and Shane believed he was dead, I would think that there would be some anger for both your wife and your best friend.


For me, it was the scene in Wildfire, where they were tending to Jim (after he had been bit) and Lori and Shane were outside the RV arguing and Rick came out of the RV and said something like, 'What are you two talking about?'  It was the look on his face that convinced me that he knew.


So...Were you surprised that Rick already knew? Was it in retrospect and re-watching the past episodes?  Or do you think he just picked up the tension between those two from the beginning?

[Ryan_Dead]

I had no idea Rick knew until it was revealed. I don't remember noticing anything which made me think he knew. My memorys so bad LoL I can't remember exactly what went on when it was revealed between Lori and Rick, there wasn't a big arguement was there? Because surely I would have remebered that.They should have had a big argument though. Like a huge one. That would have been good.

[Ciren]

All the subtle facial expressions Rick used when noticing Shane and Lori together throughout season 1 all the way up to season 2's midpoint gave it away to me that he knew all along or at least had a hunch that something happened between them.

Even Shane's "Damnit! You're alive..." facial expression he had when he saw Rick return to the camp for the first time and embrace Lori and Carl gave it away and Rick may have picked up on this.

[Babs Bladdyblah]

Serenity - I feel if he didn't, he should have had a good hunch. All the looks Shane gave her, especially the incident at the CDC and the scratches on Shane's neck. And the scene you stated with them outside the RV.

I also agree about your boredom... cause I'm bored too.

[backwoodsroamer]

Serenity, I always had a feeling Rick knew, but I can't put my finger on any Ah Ha moment.  It was just a suspicion. Not trying to belittle your post Serenity, but.......  This is sad. We've gnawed every shred of meat from the corpse, and now we're digging the gristle off the bones. Guess I'll go cut the grass now...........Sigh.

Edited by backwoodsroamer, 27 April 2012 - 05:26 PM.

[Serenity@sea]

backwoodsroamer, on 27 April 2012 - 05:24 PM, said:

Serenity, I always had a feeling Rick knew, but I can't put my finger on any Ah Ha moment.  It was just a suspicion. Not trying to belittle your post Serenity, but.......  This is sad. We've gnawed every shred of meat from the corpse, and now we're digging the gristle off the bones.

No offense taken. I freely admit I am bored. Also, feeling very redundant. There are times, I'll start responding to a thread and I think......I've said this about 27x already. LOL
Hopefully, once they start filming we will get a few more tidbits to chew on for awhile. Otherwise, it will be a looooooong summer.

[Sapper]

Yes, he knew, I think he knew right away.  It was more than just Lorie and Shane giving it away.  Go back and watch those first few scenes after he comes back into the camp, when people are saying things like "you know each other" etc.  I can't remember exact quotes.  But I got the distinct impression that everybody was thinking something like, "uh, ok, this is going to be awkward".  But then again, I might have been the one who felt awkward and just thought I saw that in the other actors.

[Judari]

Well Rick's a cop, a good one, so he would pick up on the subtle queues. I think one big give away would be the fact of how Lori went out of her way to ignore Shane, something would have went off in my head when I noticed that.

[JJC24]

I think he knew very quickly, if not right away.

In the comics, Dale warns him about Shane and his wife so you pretty much know when he started suspecting it, but in the show it's more about the looks between the 3 of them... I think ^^.

[Shushke]

Serenity@sea, on 27 April 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:

For me, it was hindsight and re-watching Season 1, because I was somewhat surprised when Rick told Lori he knew about those two. That scene was a little anti-climatic for me, because I thought Rick would have shown more anger. That made me think that he had known about it for awhile. That he had some time to process it. Because even if he had logically processed that Lori and Shane believed he was dead, I would think that there would be some anger for both your wife and your best friend.

I personally just feel that Rick is a nice understanding guy, who gets how both Shane and Lori must have felt 'knowing' he was dead.
So for, me I didn't find it too anti-climactic, in fact I found it to be the opposite.  I was impressed if anything at how Rick dealt with the situation, keeping a cool head like that.  I found the writing here to be much better and more impressive than the typical "you slept with Shane!?"/"you slept with my wife!" scenario that has been played out so many times.

Edited by Shushke, 28 April 2012 - 03:51 PM.

[Leela]

I think he knew pre-apocalypse. I think Shane and Lori always had an emotional affair that finally turned physical when they thought Rick was dead. That flashback of Shane coming to tell Lori that Rick had been shot cemented it for me. Shane always loved Lori and I think Lori loved Shane, too. And I think Rick always saw it but never accepted it until she finally confessed it.

[Serenity@sea]

Shushke, on 28 April 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

I personally just feel that Rick is a nice understanding guy, who gets how both Shane and Lori must have felt 'knowing' he was dead.
So for, me I didn't find it too anti-climactic, in fact I found it to be the opposite.  I was impressed if anything at how Rick dealt with the situation, keeping a cool head like that.  I found the writing here to be much better and more impressive than the typical "you slept with Shane!?"/"you slept with my wife!" scenario that has been played out so many times.

I do get what you are saying. That is why I said that he had time to process it. Really, that news was overshadowed by the fact, that he just found out Lori was pregnant and wanted to get rid of it without even discussing it with him.
It does take an pretty evolved man to accept that news when it is most likely your best friends baby, though.

Edited by Serenity@sea, 28 April 2012 - 04:19 PM.

[Leela]

Poor Rick

[Shushke]

Serenity@sea, on 28 April 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

It does take an pretty evolved man to accept that news when it is most likely your best friends baby, though.

Maybe that's it.  Maybe that's the answer to all our questions;

Rick is the next stage in human evolution.  That's how he survived the hospital.

The Ubermensch.

Edited by Shushke, 28 April 2012 - 05:04 PM.

[gracie lou]

Shushke, on 28 April 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

I personally just feel that Rick is a nice understanding guy, who gets how both Shane and Lori must have felt 'knowing' he was dead.
So for, me I didn't find it too anti-climactic, in fact I found it to be the opposite.  I was impressed if anything at how Rick dealt with the situation, keeping a cool head like that.  I found the writing here to be much better and more impressive than the typical "you slept with Shane!?"/"you slept with my wife!" scenario that has been played out so many times.

I agree. I also didn't have an issue with Rick's reaction. I think a ZA would pretty much underline what's important in life, and my spouse finding comfort in someone's arms when they thought I was dead, just wouldn't matter in the scheme of things. I absolutely don't agree with anyone who believes something was going on prior to the ZA. I don't think Shane and Lori were anything more than friends.

Also, I think Rick knew from very early on, but just didn't want to think about it too hard - same as with the knowledge that Shane sacrificed Otis to bring the medical equipment back to save Carl.

[Trillian]

Sapper, on 27 April 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

Yes, he knew, I think he knew right away.  It was more than just Lorie and Shane giving it away.  Go back and watch those first few scenes after he comes back into the camp, when people are saying things like "you know each other" etc.  I can't remember exact quotes.  But I got the distinct impression that everybody was thinking something like, "uh, ok, this is going to be awkward".  But then again, I might have been the one who felt awkward and just thought I saw that in the other actors.

Agreed.  I just recently watched that episode again and Rick knows that something went on between Lori and Shane.

[Ciren]

In Wildfire when Shane and Lori are talking outside the RV about Rick's decision to leave camp for the CDC instead of going to Ft. Benning and Rick comes out and catches them mid sentence; subtleties such as this is just an example of the many instances where Rick may have an inkling that something went on between the two while he was away.

That and Shane all but gave it away in that same episode when he and Rick when hunting and he was contemplating gunning down Rick. Right before this, Rick said something about doing what's best for his family and taking care of them to which Shane took offense saying something along the lines of "Wha'd you say to meh?! I took curr of 'em as if they were mah own!"