[DeadZedHead]

S2x210, on 18 January 2013 - 11:59 PM, said:

Motorcycle armors and leathers, full body designed to reduce penetration and blunt force impact, I'd also wear nice riot helmet.

Riot helmet leaves your neck exposed.  I like a motorcycle helmet, but if you think of something better...

[OMEN]

Kevlar material is very durable and light, I have my workers wear Kevlar gloves and sleeves to prevent cuts from, various types pf saws and tools.   The material is light and comfortable.   It's no thicker than a sock and resembles cotton.


Just today i wad testing a new brand I slid  my  knife across my forearm twice, only left a red mark

Edited by OMEN, 19 January 2013 - 04:57 AM.

[DeadCave]

I posted this elsewhere then realized that it should've gone here.
This is just simply an awesome helmet and would work well in a ZA, covering up the face and head and the lenses can be tinted to pick up the triple lasers easier, even in bright sunlight. With appropriate body armor a "hunter" could have some fun.

[SPINEBLOOD]

I think a jacket with things like flip flops and rags duct taped all around you would work I'd just use a bunch of duct tape

[Styrofoam Nathan]

Plastic trash and recycling bins can be cut up and bent, then strapped around key areas for a lightweight, sturdy armor. This would be plenty durable to resist bites.

[zomnipotent]

I would triple up on tyvek  suits,  breathable, light weight,  easy on easy off.   like BigEd suggested the carhartts  over top.

[Canadian-Walker]

Carhartts are very heavy and wearing them in the summer will quickly lead to heat exhaustion and heat stroke rendering you immobile and therefore dead.  One thing that seems apparent in reading the earlier posts in this topic is the idea that you need to cover the entire body in armor.  I just don't think that this is really needed.  Coverings of the arms, shoulders, neck and legs i believe are the most appropriate areas that need to be covered.  I will post a more complete post tomorrow as I am just about done work!

[OMEN]

I'm telling ya level 4-5 Kevlar gloves and sleeves.  

I have my guys use these all day


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[Canadian-Walker]

All right I'm back at work so here is my further post on ZA armor.

I like the idea of the kevlar the only thing that i am concered by is how thin the sleeves appear to be.  I don't mean that I don't think they are cut or tear proof but I fear for the crushing injuries that would be caused by a bite wound.  I do like how light the kevlar would be but myself I would prefer a good leather "jacket" of just sleeves and going across the shoulders.  I think this would give very good protection to the most vulnerable areas for a walker to bite.  As for I helmet i personally would not wear a helmet.  A baseball hat or something to keep hair and sweat out of the eyes yes but I don't think a helmet is really nessasary if you have adequate neck protection.  Helmet are used to prevent blunt force trauma injuries to the head and unless zombies are carrying baseball bats and axes i think you should be good with something to keep hair and sweat from your eyes.

Why nothing over the torso you ask?  Well lets think about this logically for a minute.  What are going to be the most vulnerable area's of the body for a walker to bite?  The extremities.  Providing protection for your arms, hands, legs and feet is much more important than wearing a complete set of armor.  Walker do not use weapons they will not come after you wielding swords or bats (unless I'm a walker in which case before I died I taped my swords to my hands so i could be the only sword wielding walker) thus negating the need for armor over your midsection.  Now some of you are going to use the argument of well what about other survivors trying to kill you.  If someone is trying to kill you and your dressed in a full set of biker leather that doesn't really help much if they puts a 7.62mm round thru your chest.  This is armor against walkers were talking about not other survirors.

Lets talk about gloves for a second, I personally think that the best types of gloves for you to wear would be an assaulter type of gloves.  These gloves have hard sections of kevlar over the knuckles of the hand.  These sections of hard kevlar can deliver powerful strikes against an opponent.  Are they going to kill a walker? No, they aren't but they are going to allow you to punch a walker allowing you to create space between you and the walker thus letting you deliver a killing blow with your prefered CQC (close quarters combat) weapon.

Thank you.

[paigeybums]

A 4 season sleeping bag

[OMEN]

Canadian-Walker, on 09 April 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

All right I'm back at work so here is my further post on ZA armor.

I like the idea of the kevlar the only thing that i am concered by is how thin the sleeves appear to be.  I don't mean that I don't think they are cut or tear proof but I fear for the crushing injuries that would be caused by a bite wound.  I do like how light the kevlar would be but myself I would prefer a good leather "jacket" of just sleeves and going across the shoulders.  I think this would give very good protection to the most vulnerable areas for a walker to bite.  As for I helmet i personally would not wear a helmet.  A baseball hat or something to keep hair and sweat out of the eyes yes but I don't think a helmet is really nessasary if you have adequate neck protection.  Helmet are used to prevent blunt force trauma injuries to the head and unless zombies are carrying baseball bats and axes i think you should be good with something to keep hair and sweat from your eyes.

Why nothing over the torso you ask?  Well lets think about this logically for a minute.  What are going to be the most vulnerable area's of the body for a walker to bite?  The extremities.  Providing protection for your arms, hands, legs and feet is much more important than wearing a complete set of armor.  Walker do not use weapons they will not come after you wielding swords or bats (unless I'm a walker in which case before I died I taped my swords to my hands so i could be the only sword wielding walker) thus negating the need for armor over your midsection.  Now some of you are going to use the argument of well what about other survivors trying to kill you.  If someone is trying to kill you and your dressed in a full set of biker leather that doesn't really help much if they puts a 7.62mm round thru your chest.  This is armor against walkers were talking about not other survirors.

Lets talk about gloves for a second, I personally think that the best types of gloves for you to wear would be an assaulter type of gloves.  These gloves have hard sections of kevlar over the knuckles of the hand.  These sections of hard kevlar can deliver powerful strikes against an opponent.  Are they going to kill a walker? No, they aren't but they are going to allow you to punch a walker allowing you to create space between you and the walker thus letting you deliver a killing blow with your prefered CQC (close quarters combat) weapon.

Thank you.

I like the way ya think and I agree. I would wear the Kevlar sleeves of the leather sleeves


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[BigEd]

You can get leather welding sleeves at welding supply shops for $30-$80.
They cover your neck shoulders and arms very well. A must if you are welding beneath a lift.




(I weld and fabricate a lot of things.)

[Canadian-Walker]

That is exactly the type of thing I was talking about BigEd. You could if you wanted to sew on a couple of sheet metal piece onto the forearms for added protection.

[OMEN]

Seems like us construction guys will be surviving.  


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[Canadian-Walker]

You talk like there was ever doubt Omen lol

[elmwoodparkhoodlum]

I was thinking swat pants from the army surplus, underarmour  tshirt and socks to wick away moistere, long sleeve dickies shirt, a leather vest, and chainmail from renaissance faire.  This would be summertime appararal for recon mission.  in the wintertime some more insulation along with the chainmale.

Also a helmet.

I have also heard fo something called dragonskin.

[Canadian-Walker]

I feel that with your set up Elm that you would over heat very quickly in the summer months.  Also why chain mail? Chain mail is designed to stop a slashing weapon by spreading the impact over a larger area. Dragon skin is a bullet proof vest that I have heard had some flaws when tested by combat troops in Afghanistan, but again why the hell are you wearing bullet proof vest in the ZA unless your fighting other survivors

[elmwoodparkhoodlum]

I think I was thinking of those shark suits.  If a shark wouldn't be able to bite through it, a zombie wouldn';t be able to either.  When I made that post I think I wasn't really sure what Dragonskin was.  I was told what it was and you are right, unless you are going against other survivors it probably isn't needed.  

I mentioned chainmail because I had a friend that was into that stuff.  Dungeons and Dragons, The Hobbit, things like that.  He said that they would wear a leather shirt underneath a chainmale shirt.  This helped absorb the impact of say a Mace.  While the chainmale prevented a knife or spearhead from penetrating.

[Canadian-Walker]

Hmm I can see the potential benefit of chain mail I just worry about the added weight

[DominusPisces]

Canadian-Walker, on 11 April 2013 - 04:46 AM, said:

Hmm I can see the potential benefit of chain mail I just worry about the added weight

Traditionally chainmaille is made from iron and then later steel rings. How much force it can take is determined by what it is made of and how small the rings are ( Smaller rings.. equals denser weave, means more impact can be absorbed ) Here is the problem. Chain maille ( Or any armour ) Is rare as there isn't a huge market for them now a days save for the Renn Fair circuits and enthusiasts. So unless you stumble across it, you would have to make it yourself, which is VERY time consuming. A simple standard maille shirt can have more than 10,000 rings which all must be forged and weaved ( Which means cutting some and leaving some intact) Now they do make stage maille made with the same exact patterns as regular maille but made from aluminum, which would be lighter, and probably fine for warding off bites (Maybe not a sword slash though) Also I found at least one site that recomends buying a pvc pipe and cutting washers out of it and using those for stage armor. I would imagine pvc maille would still provide some decent protection from bites. Though with any maille once a few of the rings are busted and fall off, that section needs to be repairds ASAP. Also maille makes a very cool but audible slinky type noise when moving, even the pvc maille on youtube rattled a little.

[Canadian-Walker]

Hmm that PVC would be interesting to test.