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Everyone has been saying that this next story arc will be insane, and that there will probably be a lot of bloodshed of characters. Now we know Kirkman is willing to kill off any character at any point, but who do you think is the safest (for now at least)? I have a few characters that I think will most definitely survive the upcoming arc.

Carl - If Kirkman had wanted to kill off Carl he would have had him die when he got shot in the face. Carl survived, and it would be unnecessary for Kirkman to kill him so soon after miraculously having his life saved. I also think Carl has very interesting interactions with Paul/Jesus and I am hoping Kirkman explores that more.

I believe Andrea and Rick are safe for right now as well. Killing one of them off at this point is too predictable, so I think they'll both survive.

My final one is a bit of an obscure choice, but I think Eugene isn't going anywhere for awhile. The topic of ammo has been brought up a lot recently, so until Eugene starts making that ammo I believe he is safe as well.

What do you all think?

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Very interesting take on Eugene. You're right, until ammo production begins, he's safe. Speaking of ammo... I'm no expert, but shell casings are just... Casings. What about gun powder and the projectiles?

I don't think Rick is safe anymore. Not after Jesus and Carl getting along...!

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I definitely agree that Rick, Carl and Andrea are safe. I would go out on a limb and say that he's not finished with Glenn yet either but I have a disheartening yet strong feeling that Michonne, Maggie and Abraham are out the door soon.

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View PostCiggy, on 17 April 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

I definitely agree that Rick, Carl and Andrea are safe. I would go out on a limb and say that he's not finished with Glenn yet either but I have a disheartening yet strong feeling that Michonne, Maggie and Abraham are out the door soon.

Agree about Michonne and Maggie. Michonne hasn't had done anything of substance since Morgan died, she's just kind of there. And Maggie hasn't been useful/prominent/likable since the prison, I'm actually surprised she's lived this long. I do hope Sophia lives though, she's underused and it'd be interesting to see more of her take on the zombie apocalypse.

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I think Carl is the safest character, definitely. He's gonna survive the comics for sure.

Rick and Andrea are safe for now because of their romance. I get the feeling, from reading the letter hacks, that Kirkman really wants to explore that storyline. But I can also see Andrea surviving the comics like Carl. Rick probably won't.

Glenn is safe-ish. But definitely something's gonna happen to Maggie or Sophia. This is why I think the Alexandria community is going to get attacked.

I think Michonne is gonna leave us soon. Same goes for Abraham. Especially if Daryl joins the group. I think Holly is going to keep poisoning him and it'll eventually break him. Kinda like  Lori did with Shane on the show.

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I also think only Carl is safe, I'd LIKE to think Andrea is safe (she being the character that most intrigues me at the moment) but I can't.

I do hope they keep Sophia alive though, she is a good contrast to Carl. Both have essentially been through the same thing, in fact Sophia could be said to have had it a lot worse than Carl to be honest. Yet she still retains her innocence, something Ben, Billy and now even Carl had/have lost. I'd like to see them explore Sophia a bit more before they off her.

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View PostMitch Rapp, on 17 April 2012 - 04:10 PM, said:

Very interesting take on Eugene. You're right, until ammo production begins, he's safe. Speaking of ammo... I'm no expert, but shell casings are just... Casings. What about gun powder and the projectiles?

I don't think Rick is safe anymore. Not after Jesus and Carl getting along...!

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Black powder is relatively easy to make, and a mold could be made to cast the projectiles. Black powder would work in revolvers, bolt action rifles, pump shotguns and such, but wouldn't work with semi-automatics. The real problem is the primer (the button shaped object in the base of the cartridge case). I don't see any practical way to make those, although they are available in any  gun shop that carries reloading supplies. But having access to a shop with all the components would make the whole point moot.

All this speculation has got me anxious to know what's going on back at Alexandria.


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I'm pretty sure most of the Alexandria citizens will bite it at the hands of the Saviors once that group comes raiding the area. (including Rosita, Holly, Eugene, and Gabriel; they're all pretty expendable characters who don't really have much going for them).  I can see Nicholas surviving, because he has some potential that would make for good drama. We know he's a hothead, so god only knows how he'll be, and what kinds of tension he'll bring, if he survives the bloodbath and meets up with Rick and whoever else remains.

Along with Rick, Carl is definitely safe. I don't see Sophia dying because for Kirkman that would just come off as 'oh she died in the show, I should take their example and kill her off now in the comic (it doesn't seem like something he would do).

Andrea, the more I think about it, seems safe because the whole 'every girl involved with Rick dies' pattern would get redundant (and Kirkman's obviously aware of this).

Michonne, Abraham, Glenn and Maggie are all fair game though.

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The more I think about it though, the more I come to the conclusion that  Michonne, Andrea or Glenn will die in the come up to or in #100. It's  meant to be a big storyline and they are the characters, after Rick and  Carl that would make the most impact if they died.

If Maggie or Sophia died nobody would bat an eyelid. And out of the other characters introduced prior to the Alexandria introduction - Abraham, Rostia, Eugene and Gabriel - only Abraham would cause any sort of reaction if he died.

At the very least, one or two of that trio will be kidnapped, leave the group, get seperated from the group or just simply go missing. It could be left ambiguous so that they can return at some point but #100 will end with a fractioning of the 'core' group IMO.

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Carl will eventually become the main character down the road after Rick is killed, but that won't be for a while. Andrea seems relatively safe for now, but I can see an opening with her insisting that she go along with the group where she might be killed off to prove Rick right that she should have stayed.

I cannot see Michonne being killed off. I can see her becoming disillusioned with the group and leaving, and going back to wandering with two zombies beside her similar to how she first arrived... but I cannot see her dying. Whether she would be gone for a long time and then return, or whether she'd be gone for good... can't say.

Glenn will die. He is the second longest serving character in the comic. Out of anyone, his death would make the biggest impact among fans and indeed the characters in the book.

Maggie would probably kill herself if Glenn dies, so I cannot see her last much longer. The Greene family have a knack for being brutally murdered as well, so if she doesn't commit suicide, she'll cop an extremely brutal death. Because that guy is sick off chasing her...

Everyone else is fair game, I think. Except Jesus... I can see that dude lasting for a while. If he dies though, I bet Kirkman doesn't turn him into a zombie... until three days have passed. Something along the lines of him dying, not turning so they think his body might hold the key to a cure... and then he comes back in three days. It's stupid but I can just see it happening.

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Unless they skip into the future I can't see Carl being the main characters, he's just too young to carry the book IMO, they'd be more suited bringing somebody new in or just using Andrea or Glenn as the focus.

Edited by Andrea, 19 April 2012 - 08:07 PM.


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View PostAndrea, on 19 April 2012 - 08:06 PM, said:

Unless they skip into the future I can't see Carl being the main characters, he's just too young to carry the book IMO, they'd be more suited bringing somebody new in or just using Andrea or Glenn as the focus.

As much as I don't want Carl to be the main character of the books, I think its inevitable that Rick will die before the end of the series, and that Carl will become the main focus. I could see Andrea carrying on the story, but I don't think Kirkman will go that route.

I definitely don't think Glenn will ever be the main focus either, he doesn't have enough depth as a character.

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I think that Michonne, Abe, Holly, Rosita, Maggie, Sophia and alot of the other extras will go, dividing glenn and rick/andrea and carl
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View Postfarswell7, on 19 April 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

As much as I don't want Carl to be the main character of the books, I think its inevitable that Rick will die before the end of the series, and that Carl will become the main focus. I could see Andrea carrying on the story, but I don't think Kirkman will go that route.

I definitely don't think Glenn will ever be the main focus either, he doesn't have enough depth as a character.

Even though Glenn is a tad 1 dimensional I would still prefer him to Carl lol :P

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I think that nobody is safe... but, the safest characters is the Rick-Carl core, for a while. I think that Carl can carry the book when he have 16 years or more, he is growing in the World, adaptating himself.
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Safe to me: rick , andrea , carl and glenn


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Carl and Rick are definitely the safest. I don't think Andrea is going anywhere. I've prepared myself for the potential deaths of Glenn, Maggie, Abraham, Rosita, and  as much as it pains me to say it ......Michonne :( I have a feeling she's not going to make it.

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to quote mr kirkman.... "NOBODIES SAFE!" :P
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Can feel sure about the characters that havent develope that much have a much higher chance to go but that also been proven wrong :) both in the comics and show


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I agree with Carl and Andrea.

I want to think that Michelle will live, because she's my favorite character so far. Same for Sophia, I want her to grow up with Carl! And she's lived through some bad shit with her mom and all... But I guess they all have ^^' Also apart from that she doesn't really ads anything to the story so I don't think she'll last very long.

I think Glenn won't last long either, however sad hat makes me, which means Maggie will probably die too.

I can see Abraham lasting longer than the others from Alexandria, maybe even get together with Andrea and Carl after Rick dies. Who knows?

No say on the others.

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This thread has made me realize how much I like Rosita. She's so cute. You gotta love a girl who keeps her fashion sense even after the apocalypse. Cause God knows if the world ended tomorrow everyone would be looting places like Walmart and Costco, but I'd be raiding all the MAC stores. Yessss, all the beautiful make up forever.

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View PostSpartanZombie, on 24 April 2012 - 06:24 AM, said:

to quote mr kirkman.... "NOBODIES SAFE!" :P

This.
I think this is the perfect time to kill Andrea or even Rick, just to remind everyone that nobody's safe.
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View PostThe Ultimate, on 29 April 2012 - 02:36 AM, said:

This.
I think this is the perfect time to kill Andrea or even Rick, just to remind everyone that nobody's safe.
I disagree.  Killing characters, particularly important characters, just for the shake of shock value is a really shitty way to write a story, and completely self destructive.  Kill Rick and you completely handicap the narrative.  Kill Andrea, and not only do you lose an important supporting character, you don't go anywhere you haven't already been before.  Either way, it's a pretty serious net loss.

At this point, GRIMDARK is just as dangerous as light and fluffy.  And I'm not sure I'd want to read a 200 some issue "Rise of the Governor".



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View PostMaka523, on 29 April 2012 - 06:31 AM, said:

I disagree.  Killing characters, particularly important characters, just for the shake of shock value is a really shitty way to write a story, and completely self destructive.



It's called 'being realistic' though, isn't it? Kirkman has made it clear that he doesn't care how important a character is, to the audience and or to other characters in the story. To save them for narrative purposes and risk dumping reality out of the window doesn't exactly seem like his style....

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View PostMatt, on 29 April 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

It's called 'being realistic' though, isn't it? Kirkman has made it clear that he doesn't care how important a character is, to the audience and or to other characters in the story. To save them for narrative purposes and risk dumping reality out of the window doesn't exactly seem like his style....
Dude...

Carl got shot in the head.  He's still walking around.

Kirkman clearly doesn't have any qualms about sacrificing "realism" for the sake of the narrative.  Not that I think people "need to die" for the story to be realistic.  Once your survivors have made it past a certain point, you'd expect the attrition rate to drop pretty significantly.

There are only four survivors of Atlanta who are still around.  If Kirkman is to kill one off every time he needs to "shake things up", that's pretty damn unsustainable.  And I like Michonne, but she's nowhere near as well developed a character as some of the others.  Abraham is "Rick's male lieutenant/resident badass who may or may not turn against him" take three, counting Shane.  Maggie and Sophia are bit characters at most, and none of the new group have anywhere near enough development to fill the shoes of Atlanta survivors.






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