[ibivibiv]

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Ok, so going deep story telling basics here: all good stories do well with a protagonist that everyone can relate to and see the events of the story through.  So far in the TV series Rick has done a great job as a character filling out this role.  I was just wondering to myself if this is going to continue to work as well going forward on the TV screen given that Rick is going to drift more and more away from being 'normal' as he adapts to the ZA and becomes more ruthless.  Part of the story is the character's struggle with trying to maintain their humanity in the ZA and Rick is going to lose his grip on his some going forward.   On the pages of the comic things are a little more detached.  On the screen if Rick starts acting more ruthless and doing some hyper violent things, viewers might lose that identity with him.  Just curious/excited to see how the show producers play this out.  Maybe Glenn lends a hand in being the character people latch on to for 'identity'?  Will be interesting to see how this works.

[Jason]

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I think it'll work the same way as it does in the comic: Rick will get more ruthless and sometimes we'll be shocked by it and disapprove, but most of the time, we'll give him a lot of leeway because of his circumstances. Even up to this point in the comic I don't think Rick has turned into a villain that we can't identify with (unlike, say, Walter White in Breaking Bad). He's done some incredibly harsh things, but it's always to protect the people he cares about.

[Goat]

I think I relate to comic Rick more than TV Rick, so I'll probably be pleased to see him drift a little in that direction personally.

[Ciren]

ibivibiv said:

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On the screen if Rick starts acting more ruthless and doing some hyper violent things, viewers might lose that identity with him.  Just curious/excited to see how the show producers play this out.  Maybe Glenn lends a hand in being the character people latch on to for 'identity'?  Will be interesting to see how this works.

I don't see this as being spoiler tag worthy so I'll just come out and say it: depending on what Rick does on screen, (as obviously what happens in the comics won't necessarily translate over to TV exactly the same) affects how many fans he loses, and yes, if the comics are any indication, and if the show follows them similarly in any sense, he will lose some. He'll have to do something really wild, however, to lose my respect. Yes he's made mistakes and done rash things, but so has everyone else in the group, and Rick does them with the best of intentions at heart and for what he feels is for the good of everyone as a whole. He's got the weight of the world on his shoulders trying to keep everyone alive (his wife and son most importantly, however), and with all that's going on around him lately, is starting to feel the pressure mount. Of course he's going to get a bit edgy... more so now than ever considering he's starting to realize what morals he once had "died beside the fire."

In my estimation though, Rick's progression towards a darker, grittier side will only intensify and personify not only his character, but the show that should basically be called The Walking Rick.

As far as Glenn goes, heck yeah, I'd love to see Glenn step up and challenge Rick at one point -- put him in his place even. Now that his and Maggie's relationship will only deepen, I can [unfortunately] start to see him mature and really "grow some juevos." Sadly though, we'll never see season 1 Glenn again and that's the Glenn I really like. But alas changes have to happen and who knows, it may be for the best.

[rc212v]

I haven't read a comic book since the big bang (btw, my ears are still ringing) so how much are TWD comics?  Are they available online or just hard copy?

Edited by rc212v, 05 April 2012 - 04:26 PM.

[ibivibiv]

rc212v, on 05 April 2012 - 04:26 PM, said:

I haven't read a comic book since the big bang (btw, my ears are still ringing) so how much are TWD comics?  Are they available online or just hard copy?

There are both.  They have a physical compendium that covers most of the early stuff and is the most economical way to "catch up" I would say.  I haven't seen the compendium in an online format, but there are definitely volumes that cover about 6 issues each online.  Most of the e-publishers have them.

Edited by ibivibiv, 05 April 2012 - 05:48 PM.

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Ciren, on 05 April 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

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As far as Glenn goes, heck yeah, I'd love to see Glenn step up and challenge Rick at one point -- put him in his place even. Now that his and Maggie's relationship will only deepen, I can [unfortunately] start to see him mature and really "grow some juevos." Sadly though, we'll never see season 1 Glenn again and that's the Glenn I really like. But alas changes have to happen and who knows, it may be for the best.

Yeah I miss the "old" Glenn too.  Calling Rick a dumbass for getting in the tank, and basically leading him around for awhile is a far cry from the Glenn of now.  I'm hoping they deepen his character now that Maggie is around.  Hey wonder if he'll shave his head on TV?    

For the record, personally I agree with most of you that I will like Rick being grittier.  I am just anxious to see how they portray it for TV.  I am a huge fan of the flawed hero.  So far they've been sort of soft shoe-ing Rick's character.  Man why can't it be October already??? lol.  Will they make Rick 'MAN UP' more or was that Ricktatorship speech just a flash in the pan?

[Kat]

Ciren, on 05 April 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

I don't see this as being spoiler tag worthy so I'll just come out and say it: depending on what Rick does on screen, (as obviously what happens in the comics won't necessarily translate over to TV exactly the same) affects how many fans he loses, and yes, if the comics are any indication, and if the show follows them similarly in any sense, he will lose some. He'll have to do something really wild, however, to lose my respect. Yes he's made mistakes and done rash things, but so has everyone else in the group, and Rick does them with the best of intentions at heart and for what he feels is for the good of everyone as a whole. He's got the weight of the world on his shoulders trying to keep everyone alive (his wife and son most importantly, however), and with all that's going on around him lately, is starting to feel the pressure mount. Of course he's going to get a bit edgy... more so now than ever considering he's starting to realize what morals he once had "died beside the fire."

In my estimation though, Rick's progression towards a darker, grittier side will only intensify and personify not only his character, but the show that should basically be called The Walking Rick.

As far as Glenn goes, heck yeah, I'd love to see Glenn step up and challenge Rick at one point -- put him in his place even. Now that his and Maggie's relationship will only deepen, I can [unfortunately] start to see him mature and really "grow some juevos." Sadly though, we'll never see season 1 Glenn again and that's the Glenn I really like. But alas changes have to happen and who knows, it may be for the best.

"The Walking Rick."  Okay that just made me chuckle.  

You know, I have heard more than one person involved with the show discuss it as "Rick's journey" and his de-volution into badassery certainly serves that, but honestly, I think the most honest moment of character development came in the last episode of season 2 when he FINALLY told everyone off.  I really think that the direction of the show will be to whittle everything down to (and eliminate threats to - and this does include Lori and the baby) the relationship between Rick and Carl.

[undeadhero]

i could see if the show lasts for longer then 7-9 seasons rick becoming evil and carl becoming how rick was and them just having a big good vs evil battle were rick dies and carl carries on his good name.


like rick just snaps or somthing but all the good he had gets carried on with carl and carl become the groups leader.



idk though lol anythings possible with time.