[pyus]

Ok I think the topic title is self explanatory. After the ZA not all the military will be dead or turned at some point a commander will realize their forces are lost and pull back to a defensible location. So more then likely there are enclaves out there of military force such as bases no zombie could get into like NORAD or even more probable on nuclear powered aircraft carriers at sea or in harbor.

The way I see it any military force that you find still functioning should be approached very very cautiously if at all. They will in most cases be bettered armored better trained and better armed then the typical survivor and their is no telling what their orders could be from a commanding officer that could very well have them in a shoot to kill mentality.

What are your thoughts.

[SkunkWorks]

I would like to think that American soldiers would continue to defend citizens regardless of how many were killed or if the entire command structure was destroyed.  If even 2 or 3 men were left holed up in a house they would keep resisting.  In some movies / comic books soldiers turn into rouges but I highly doubt that would happen in real life.

Soldiers in the UK, Canada, EU would be no different. I think men would be more resilient because they're fighting for home, not politics.  In a real ZA I think they would lead a human resistance against the zombies.

My opinion is more like the Terminator movie resistance rather than the one portrayed in TWD.

[firestopr]

Hide most likely

[DominusPisces]

Seek them out. I very much doubt they'll shoot on sight. Probably the worst they'll do is turn you away. I'd say it's an acceptable risk for.the potential gain.

[ninexofx7]

Who knows what they would do. You would have to worry if their orders are to kill on sight or allow civilians near them. If the chain of command is broken, in the worst case scenario, I believe Skunkworks has it down. They would most likely gather up their families and set up a resistance like in the Terminator. Thank god we wouldn't be fighting highly intelligent thinking machines though. But, there's also the possibility that the military would be more humanitarian than militant and harbor civilians in order to restart mankind. I just think if the military were to shoot civilians on sight, it would most likely be to keep the infection from entering the base.

[DeadCave]

As with all groups, observe as much as possible (ahem without spying). See if at all possible how they treat other survivors, it should give you a clue. More importantly... will they let you go, when YOU want to leave?

[pyus]

DeadCave, on 23 March 2012 - 06:43 AM, said:

As with all groups, observe as much as possible (ahem without spying). See if at all possible how they treat other survivors, it should give you a clue. More importantly... will they let you go, when YOU want to leave?

That is something to think about as well will they let you leave if you want to. If we were to take the world of The Walking Dead and use it as an example we can figure some things out. From shanes description in the hospital the military had entered sterilize mode on all civilians in the opening weeks of infection. So running to them for help then would not have been a good idea. At this point in the story however it looks as if they all just disappeared. It is my opinion that if there are any left they would be on extreme lock down. Then it comes down to their commanders. If one of them has some kind of messiah complex he may be planing on he and his soldiers starting the world over alone.

here is another question with so much of the military's combat forces and ship board forces being men would a base let you in just to kill the men and keep the women to even out population.

Edited by pyus, 23 March 2012 - 12:03 PM.

[mx1]

good questions...i would probably try to get somewhat close to them and see whats happening before making the decision to go to them cause once you have turned yourself over there might not be any coming back

[BosnianLurker]

I would probably go no where near the military.
There is the "28 Days Later" scenario where the military will take women and kill men and in a desperate world that could be true.

[the Walkin Dude]

Like DC, observe from a distance and evaluate the responses to any survivors that approached.

[ShaneAmour]

I would try to get aboard an aircraft carrier, which has the capability to manufacture fresh water from salt water, and the crew can catch food daily from the sea...fish and seaweed. So I guess I would run to military forces.

[lost walker]

Diary of the dead....

[Texaxile]

Hi
Avoid them. also, consider that if you are going to try to observe them, they will have lookouts posted and also some very effective night vision stuff, maybe also movement sensors, microphones, cameras, thermal imaging etc. so not only are you trying to remain hidden from zombies, you're also trying to remain hidden from someone else whose job it is to actually look for you.

As an individual or group you would at the very least be unwelcome (another mouth to feed, person to quarantine) possibly even percieved as a threat. It might be that the area has been designated a warzone or quarantine zone and your turning up with an empty BOB and cap in hand is not going to make you an ideal asset.
When everything has died down, if there is any military infrastructure left then they will begin to secure areas, establish bases and gain territory and come looking for you. Until that time, unless otherwise instructed by loudhailer, radio message or signs, keep your bloody head down.

don't try to seak inside any Military perimiter unless your name is James bond, because thats just plain stupid.

[LoboWon]

If I had my family with me(wife and son), I'd probably decide to stay away from them.

Men(I know, being one), can tend to be pretty animalistic and "might makes right" oriented, when thrown back in the wild(look at Shane).

I'd only join up with them, if I had an equally sized, and well armed group, that had a chance to defend ourselves successfully.

In a world of no more rules or laws, there would be plenty of those trying to take whatever they want.


I'd consider someone like myself, an asset in helping to defend and guard a camp/base.

[Drill nurse]

I guess I'd have to say I'd be skeptical of ANY group of survivors.  Any one of them could view as anything from another survivor to contribute to the survival of the group, to another mouth to feed, to a source of weapons and supplies to be pilfered.My other concern with the military would be noise.  Modern militaries don't teach fencing , just bayonet drills.   They do, however spend a lot of time training in marksmanship.  Most are also mechanized.  Guns, trucks, tanks, and helicopters make a lot of noise.  Most bases are also surrounded by concertina topped chainlinked fences.  My guess is that every military base is quickly going to be surrounded, and soon after, breached by large hoards of zombies.Find your own secure place with a good food supply and hunker down quietly.  Wait for the surviving military to try to restore order if they ever try.

[leon the pig farmer]

depends on my situation  if im desperate i'd take my chances with the military.  on the other hand  if I had a sweet set up, say a secure farm then i'd avoid them like the plague.....pun intended

[Goat]

This would depend on so many factors for me.  If control wasn't completely gone, and the military appeared to be together and functioning with a clear leadership (I know, hard to tell, but even knowing that depends on having power grids up and news going, etc.), I would probably approach them.  If things were too far gone, though, I'd be wary of any groups of heavily armed (mostly) men.  Like someone above said, if it were completely gone to shit and I had a family with me?  I'd probably hide from them.  If it were just me, alone, I would probably not find much problem joining up.  While I'm not a super macho macho man, I'm reasonably able-bodied and would be able to kill things.  I imagine they'd give me a gun and we'd truck on*.  It'd get dicey if they started doing inhumane stuff to other survivors.  I can't stand for that.  Second thought, I might avoid them even if I'm alone.

* Also, my glorious flowing hobo beard, which would be regrown at this point, would most assuredly gain me immediate acceptance.  Hobo beards ftw!!!

Edited by Goat, 30 May 2012 - 03:44 AM.

[elmwoodparkhoodlum]

Drill nurse, on 28 March 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

I guess I'd have to say I'd be skeptical of ANY group of survivors.  Any one of them could view as anything from another survivor to contribute to the survival of the group, to another mouth to feed, to a source of weapons and supplies to be pilfered.My other concern with the military would be noise.  Modern militaries don't teach fencing , just bayonet drills.   They do, however spend a lot of time training in marksmanship.  Most are also mechanized.  Guns, trucks, tanks, and helicopters make a lot of noise.  Most bases are also surrounded by concertina topped chainlinked fences.  My guess is that every military base is quickly going to be surrounded, and soon after, breached by large hoards of zombies.Find your own secure place with a good food supply and hunker down quietly.  Wait for the surviving military to try to restore order if they ever try.

Once realized that noise attracts the zombies.  I do believe that they military would adapt to it.  Zombies are easy to manipulate.  I would just send a tank with a soldier on top of it to lead them away.  Not to mention that the tank can flatten thousands of them along the way.  The perfect base would be one with only one way in or out.  Probably on a mountain top or along a cliff.  With a narrow entrance that can be barracaded.  Preferably with a tank so it can be climbed into and used to flatten the zombies to thin out the herd.

[Goofy3392]

A military base, or a FOB they would probably have setup mines and trip wires, tank ditches to trap the zombies.  Mine fields will be marked like usual to warn other military units.  

In the movie 28 days later you see a military base that they have mines setup in a field and it helps take care of any zombies that are approaching and no one is paying attention.  


As for a military base getting over ran, sure easily possible, a big base will have the gates guarded but there is sometimes depending on the base where forests on the border are not guarded nor fenced in.  And even if they get overran, they can easily lock them selves in any uparmored vehicle and just sit there until they walk away.  


If I wasn't in the military, then I would not go to a base or aircraft carrier.  If they let you in, chances are they let someone in who was bitten or scratched and hid it just to get in the base and they thought they would be ok and now guess what, you're stuck inside a base now with them on the inside and trying to get in from the outside.  And if you got on the aircraft carrier you're SOL too.  


In the movie Dawn of the Dead, they newer one, you see in a news clip of the military loading civilians with wounds into a helicopter and before ya know it the base was overran.

[Shane-Walsh]

None, if i see them i see them, if not then not.