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 Scummy, on 22 March 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

It's people like you that make me just shake my head. I've said this to many people before, but I'm only saying it once on here: Who gives a damn? This isn't the Navy SEALs vs. Zombies hour, this is THE WALKING DEAD. People like you piss me off, as you all love to nitpick every little thing about an excellent series. No one else I know is this annoying or aggravating. "HAY WAIT A MINUTE HE DIDNT RELOADZ. I MUST GO AND WHINE ABOUT IT ON A FORUM."


Seriously? Just enjoy the show.

So why are you here? This is a forum for the series.for the good and bad that happens...You are here to impose what someone should say? If you are annoyed from this and you still read the comments it is your problem ...as you said :Seriously? Just do not read the thread....

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 Scummy, on 22 March 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

It's people like you that make me just shake my head. I've said this to many people before, but I'm only saying it once on here: Who gives a damn? This isn't the Navy SEALs vs. Zombies hour, this is THE WALKING DEAD. People like you piss me off, as you all love to nitpick every little thing about an excellent series. No one else I know is this annoying or aggravating. "HAY WAIT A MINUTE HE DIDNT RELOADZ. I MUST GO AND WHINE ABOUT IT ON A FORUM."


Seriously? Just enjoy the show.


really you did see where i said
  ".i will talk all day in these threads if someone else starts them,but i just dont care enough to start the bitch anymore..."on top of you opening and replying in a thread titled

Pathetic firearms unrealism in S2 finale


so you went out of your way to give us shit about something that annoys you instead of just scrolling down to the next thread..when you see something on tv you dont like do you change the channel or write protest letters in hopes they will take it off the air so no one else can watch it?



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 badfish74, on 19 March 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:

Wow unrealistic gun fights in a TV show?  You don't say!  Just imagine if the show was about the dead walking the earth.  Oh wait.....Posted Image


The living characters are supposed to behave in a realistic manner. The 1 or two minutes of zombies per episode plays such a small part they could all drop dead-dead and the living threats carry the whole show.

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As much as I enjoyed the season finale, I believe I summed it up perfectly in this macro to TWD Facebook page. I was actually referring to Michonne's appearance here, but this applies totally to Hershel's gun.
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Edited by loki240000, 25 March 2012 - 12:56 AM.


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I am 27yrs old and have been shooting guns since i was 11...both my uncle and his father own gun stores here in my state...so needless to say im very well versed in firearms!

and knowing all that i know, tho it did bother me somewhat, it wasnt a huge deal to me cuz i know its a tv show and im assuming most of the viewers dont know much about guns...

Its one of those things where i go "oh wow that was stupid an unrealistic" but it wasnt that major to where id be like "oh wow that was so unrealistic that it just ruined the entire show for me an i will not watch this series again!"

so many shows have mistakes like this that i think i just get used to drowning them out an looking past them. And as someone mentioned earlier, 99% of action movies are guilty of this so why be so hard on TWD for doin what 99% of action movies in the last 30yrs have done also?

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I think it's an ego thing. A director that doesn't know anything about guns isn't going to ask a lowly props guy how he thought the scene looked.

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What's a meme?

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 tex, on 25 March 2012 - 02:57 AM, said:

What's a meme?
I'm probably going to do a crappy job explaining it, but I'll try. It's basically a famous thing that has spread through the internet, like some goofy picture with a caption slapped on it, or sometimes, it can be a viral video. Viral meaning one person posts it, then someone sees it, has a lol moment, then proceeds to show other people, while at the same time other people see it, like it, and it just spreads. For example, have you ever seen a pic on the net with a gray cat, and a caption that says I CAN HAZ CHEEZEBURGER?" Yeah, i don't get it, either, but that is a meme. Or, the video where this baby bites his brothers finger, and goes, "Charlie bit my finger!!" That's a meme.
Basically, what that site was saying is that no one they know nor themselves watch the show, therefore, it's not worth the sensation about it.
Which, granted, 5 years from now, no one will care about Hershel or his infinity rounds, but I can guarantee you, more people have heard of The Walking Dead than www.knowyourmeme.com.
And I was arguing the significance of Hershel with his gun because it IS a hot topic, and it is noteworthy, as it is an example of how the show may have jumped the proverbial shark.

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 tex, on 25 March 2012 - 02:57 AM, said:

What's a meme?

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 JaeBoogie, on 25 March 2012 - 01:16 AM, said:

I am 27yrs old and have been shooting guns since i was 11...both my uncle and his father own gun stores here in my state...so needless to say im very well versed in firearms!

and knowing all that i know, tho it did bother me somewhat, it wasnt a huge deal to me cuz i know its a tv show and im assuming most of the viewers dont know much about guns...

Its one of those things where i go "oh wow that was stupid an unrealistic" but it wasnt that major to where id be like "oh wow that was so unrealistic that it just ruined the entire show for me an i will not watch this series again!"

so many shows have mistakes like this that i think i just get used to drowning them out an looking past them. And as someone mentioned earlier, 99% of action movies are guilty of this so why be so hard on TWD for doin what 99% of action movies in the last 30yrs have done also?

This is a remarkably logical and mature post...........Uhmmm, are you sure you're on the right forum. We usually don't see this kind of behavior.Posted Image
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tex said:

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What's a meme?


I would've said that fat girl on the Drew Carey Show till I saw Loki's explanation...


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the show can be completely unrealistic and still use reloads and running low on ammo as part of the story.i offer these examples/

the amusement park scene in ZOMBIELAND, the girls running out of ammo on the ride and woody harelson character reloading in the ticket booth.
KICKASS,the finial fighting scene where she reloads and runs out of ammo during the last shoot out.

both movie could not have been more UNBELIEVABLE both made better by use of a little realism.

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The Walking Dead - H2: Infinite Ammo Day

Made me lol.

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 backwoodsroamer, on 25 March 2012 - 03:33 AM, said:

This is a remarkably logical and mature post...........Uhmmm, are you sure you're on the right forum. We usually don't see this kind of behavior.Posted Image

S'right. Hey! I have an idea, why don't you guys all band together and write an open letter to Hollywood stating your upset and how they've made you twitch with anguish over the last few years? You can load it on Youtube with loads of pictures of you realistically firing your guns (and if anyone has any film-making skills you can intersperse it with pictures of zombies getting killed) I bet it'd be really edge-of-the-seat watching as well...

At least then you'll get it off your collective chest and with any luck it'll stave off any of you wandering down to the AMC studios and going postal with a couple of M4s and a Mossberg pump-action shotgun*, "Mazzaaaaaaarrrraaaaaa..."

*I have no idea if these are real or not.

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joke or not, the frequent attempts to somehow link "gun nuts" with "going postal" all over modern media, social media, comedy, random discussions, etc are offensive to me.

My family has been closer than we'd like to TWO instances of mass-victim shooting rampages. This is one of many reasons I chose years ago to legally arm myself for self-defense. "Going postal" is not a joking matter.

Ask yourself why you subconsciously link those who know more than you about guns with people who willfully misuse guns for evil purposes? Subconscious Freudian fear of that which you do not know/understand? Subversive hidden desire to ridicule those whose views you find outlandish?

Or do you simply enjoy making light of the tragedy of senseless mass murder? Got any jokes about Rwanda? Sudan? Syria?

Edited by tex, 27 March 2012 - 03:26 PM.


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 Crushedknee, on 19 March 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

Take out the Plugs..Almost all pump action and automatic shotguns can hold at least 5 round..Although for hunting waterfowl you can only have 3 shells in the gun.

I owned a Mossberg pump in the past.  They are a good, moderately priced shot gun.  By the way, my Mossberg held 9 (10?) shells (2 3/4") in the tube magazine.  Herschel loading that pump and "firing until morning"  was more realistic than you might think.  Also, he could have reloaded off camera.
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I can buy that they were reloading off camera. I was a little bothered by the almost non-existent recoil and most bothered by how everyone was making perfect headshots from moving vehicles. Then again, maybe they were missing a lot and that was off camera too.

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 journeynsolace, on 31 March 2012 - 11:24 PM, said:

I can buy that they were reloading off camera. I was a little bothered by the almost non-existent recoil and most bothered by how everyone was making perfect headshots from moving vehicles. Then again, maybe they were missing a lot and that was off camera too.
You can tell that they're missing quite a lot just off camera.  Hell, I've been assuming that every time they shoot and a walker doesn't drop is a miss, and Glenn and even Andrea had plenty of those.  Their hit percentages are still off the charts, but it's not that bad.

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 loki240000, on 27 March 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:


:P :lol: :lol: :lol:    
Thanks for this!
One more point, in addition to why isn't anyone shown reloading, whether its 'understood' that its being edited out or not, but why can't they show just ONE miss?!? Doesn't anyone EVER miss?  ;)
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Perhaps its just hyperbole but they have shown reloading and misses over the span of the series.  They push the envelope more than they should though.  It always seems that they have just enough bullets/shells to deal with the current situation.

Firearms use is an important part of this show so it behooves the producers to be a little more realistic than the norm.  This lends to the immersion.  The errors and whatnot don't ruin the show for me but they are an unnecessary distraction.  I should not be wondering if Hershel's shotgun can carry that many shells.. I should be engrossed on the battle.  Someone reported that they were counting shots off-camera.  But when you take all that footage into the editing room and move it around, it doesn't matter if you kept track of it during filming. Sloppy editing messes up the count.

With regards to referring to magazines as clips.. I think this is completely reasonable for anyone who doesn't deal with guns on a regular basis.  So, Rick and Shane should use proper terminology while the rest of them would mix them up randomly.  And even with them, they may get into the habit of referring to them as clips just so the person they talking to doesn't say, "uh, what's a magazine?"  They could make a joke on this at some point...

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Hasn't it been established that his shotgun was Jesus powered?




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