[TcH]

First off id just like to say a big hi to everyone, been lurking on here for a while after borrowing and reading all 94 comics off a friend. I've been reading quite a few survival plans of other people and thought id put in my own 2 cents.

With me being from the UK the access to weapons such as guns are quite limited, but saying this infection is worldwide id work it like this.

With the infection starting and everyone knowing the epidemic as it stands, i already have a couple of weapons always on stand by. The crowbar and baseball bat in my wardrobe for easy access and of course nice hand to hand combat weapons when coming up against walkers. also a Remington 332, 12ga, 28" barrel shotgun in my loft which is used for clay pigeon shooting. Which i personally would cut down for easier close range shooting and storage. For if I've learnt anything from TWD is you only want to use your gun if very necessary.


Once I've got my weapons and established who of my friends and family etc. Is still alive. I'd set up camp for the first couple of weeks with supplies kept in the garage for emergencies (such as water, tinned goods etc.) In my house, cutting off access from the downstairs to the upstairs, of course boarding windows and doors downstairs for extra protection. Me and my best friend have always said my house would be safest due to the positioning and it being in a suburban area and well situated just outside of the small town close to the city. Although i still live with my mum (being 20 and trying to get a mortgage is never easy ) the thought of trying to save my girlfriend and every other person I've come to love is very tempting but of course id need to find out their situation before even attempting to. Apart from my mum and my best friend the only other person worth risking my life for would be my girlfriend.

If all has gone well and my plan of action has worked, we will have remained in the loft of my house rationing on tinned food and water with no more than 5/6 of us. Once the infection has taken its toll, and the country or world has been taken over. This is of course if the Army or any other national force hasn't been able to control the problem. We would want to make my way to my best friends Josh's holiday cottage in Richmond, North Yorkshire. About a 20 minute drive from Catterick Army Barracks. The reason we would have waited so long is hopefully although many more people are infected the roads and what not will already have been blocked from the traffic and its a lot easier to get past roamers than it is to get past a live person wanting you to stop. To drive from where i live which is outside Leeds, West Yorkshire. To Richmond is usualy about a hour and a half drive, so bikes would be our first option, although not very stable and protective when against roamers it will be a LOT easier to navigate through the traffic which i'm assuming will have taken its toll on all the major motorways, with people trying to escape.

Me, Josh and my girlfriend all luckily know how to ride motorbikes, so carrying passengers shouldn't be a problem to be honest, and with no more than hopefully 6 i don't see an issue with it. The journey to Richmond should take no longer than a day at most, that is with stops to take look of the area and stop off for supplies on the way from service stations and local shops. Once we arrive near Catterick the area is very rural and mostly farm land and small villages. So hopefully we won't encounter many walkers and if we do should be able to take care of them very easily. The only issue we have is that if there are some soldiers left at Catterick it's not going to be very easy or safe to get weapons or supplies from there but a risk me and Josh would gladly take to help get us set up at his cottage.

Once we've hopefully got some weapons and supplies from the barracks, we will head to the cottage which i previously stated is only a 20 minute drive away. And is situated about 200 yards from the top of a very large hill with big stone chimneys that run along the hill line. These chimneys were used for the disused coal mine used in Hurst just off where the cottage is located. The chimneys would hopefully be used for lookout points as they see for absolute miles, weather forbidding of course, which in England is never promising!

Anyway hopefully we will have a nice set up there, with log fires for warmth, there is already about 15 filled gas canisters outside for the cooker which hopefully will not have been looted by local farmers, and we will see what happens from there. Whether it be running into more survivors or losing people on the way.


The only concern i have is the locals themselves i cant imagine they would be very welcoming with everything that's been happening and mostly all of them being farmers and carrying guns. That and the hope the cottage will not already have people in it, but that road would be crossed when we got there.


Thanks for reading, that is of course if you could be bothered Any questions i'll gladly answer!


Tom!

Edited by TcH, 19 March 2012 - 04:07 PM.

[Barry Cade]

TcH, on 19 March 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

First off id just like to say a big hi to everyone, been lurking on here for a while after borrowing and reading all 94 comics off a friend. I've been reading quite a few survival plans of other people and thought id put in my own 2 cents.

With me being from the UK the access to weapons such as guns are quite limited, but saying this infection is worldwide id work it like this.

With the infection starting and everyone knowing the epidemic as it stands, i already have a couple of weapons always on stand by. The crowbar and baseball bat in my wardrobe for easy access and of course nice hand to hand combat weapons when coming up against walkers. also a Remington 332, 12ga, 28" barrel shotgun in my loft which is used for clay pigeon shooting. Which i personally would cut down for easier close range shooting and storage. For if I've learnt anything from TWD is you only want to use your gun if very necessary.


Once I've got my weapons and established who of my friends and family etc. Is still alive. I'd set up camp for the first couple of weeks with supplies kept in the garage for emergencies (such as water, tinned goods etc.) In my house, cutting off access from the downstairs to the upstairs, of course boarding windows and doors downstairs for extra protection. Me and my best friend have always said my house would be safest due to the positioning and it being in a suburban area and well situated just outside of the small town close to the city. Although i still live with my mum (being 20 and trying to get a mortgage is never easy ) the thought of trying to save my girlfriend and every other person I've come to love is very tempting but of course id need to find out their situation before even attempting to. Apart from my mum and my best friend the only other person worth risking my life for would be my girlfriend.

If all has gone well and my plan of action has worked, we will have remained in the loft of my house rationing on tinned food and water with no more than 5/6 of us. Once the infection has taken its toll, and the country or world has been taken over. This is of course if the Army or any other national force hasn't been able to control the problem. We would want to make my way to my best friends Josh's holiday cottage in Richmond, North Yorkshire. About a 20 minute drive from Catterick Army Barracks. The reason we would have waited so long is hopefully although many more people are infected the roads and what not will already have been blocked from the traffic and its a lot easier to get past roamers than it is to get past a live person wanting you to stop. To drive from where i live which is outside Leeds, West Yorkshire. To Richmond is usualy about a hour and a half drive, so bikes would be our first option, although not very stable and protective when against roamers it will be a LOT easier to navigate through the traffic which i'm assuming will have taken its toll on all the major motorways, with people trying to escape.

Me, Josh and my girlfriend all luckily know how to ride motorbikes, so carrying passengers shouldn't be a problem to be honest, and with no more than hopefully 6 i don't see an issue with it. The journey to Richmond should take no longer than a day at most, that is with stops to take look of the area and stop off for supplies on the way from service stations and local shops. Once we arrive near Catterick the area is very rural and mostly farm land and small villages. So hopefully we won't encounter many walkers and if we do should be able to take care of them very easily. The only issue we have is that if there are some soldiers left at Catterick it's not going to be very easy or safe to get weapons or supplies from there but a risk me and Josh would gladly take to help get us set up at his cottage.

Once we've hopefully got some weapons and supplies from the barracks, we will head to the cottage which i previously stated is only a 20 minute drive away. And is situated about 200 yards from the top of a very large hill with big stone chimneys that run along the hill line. These chimneys were used for the disused coal mine used in Hurst just off where the cottage is located. The chimneys would hopefully be used for lookout points as they see for absolute miles, weather forbidding of course, which in England is never promising!

Anyway hopefully we will have a nice set up there, with log fires for warmth, there is already about 15 filled gas canisters outside for the cooker which hopefully will not have been looted by local farmers, and we will see what happens from there. Whether it be running into more survivors or losing people on the way.


The only concern i have is the locals themselves i cant imagine they would be very welcoming with everything that's been happening and mostly all of them being farmers and carrying guns. That and the hope the cottage will not already have people in it, but that road would be crossed when we got there.


Thanks for reading, that is of course if you could be bothered Any questions i'll gladly answer!


Tom!

Tell you what, Tom, if you're heading towards Richmond then you could do worse than going to this place:

Forbidden Corner

It's so bloody easy to get lost and there's plenty that'd confuse walkers and such like. And I think it'd be moderately easily defensible as well. Me, Mrs C and the nipper went there last year and it was bloody terrifying...

Nice to have another Yorkshireman (I'm a Loiner too) on the board. Eeeh bah gum. Whippets.

[TcH]

Barry Cade, on 19 March 2012 - 04:21 PM, said:

Tell you what, Tom, if you're heading towards Richmond then you could do worse than going to this place:

Forbidden Corner

It's so bloody easy to get lost and there's plenty that'd confuse walkers and such like. And I think it'd be moderately easily defensible as well. Me, Mrs C and the nipper went there last year and it was bloody terrifying...

Nice to have another Yorkshireman (I'm a Loiner too) on the board. Eeeh bah gum. Whippets.

That place looks quite cool to be honest, think ill give it a look next time we go up to the cottage. Do you think there would be many people there though, safe places usualy means more people want to be there and more people want to take it from you.

Just watched the the last episode in season 2 WOAH, obviously not going to talk about it. But freaking amazing!

Cant go wrong with Yorkshire that's for sure!

[DominusPisces]

Sad as it is, I've given this some thought. I think a good place to hunker down would be the storage place down the road from me. Only two ways in, thick walls, and the entrance and exit could be fortified. There are several moving trucks at the property. Vehicles in several of the units, along with generators, lumber, chlorine ( Pool cleaning service stores there ) for drinking water, and access to the roof ( For maybe farming? ) I used to work there so I know where all the keys are and how to break into the idividule units. ( I think a resturant used to store non perishables there too ) There is a walmart near by along with a lowes.

As I have an affinity for medival weaponry I already have a few blades ( Some actually combat ready for reenactments ) Though I would need to aquire a flanged mace maybe a buckler sheild ( Though easy to make I'm sure ) I'm leaning more towards spears though for idela melee weapon ( Easy as hell to make with a kitchen knife and a stick ) Or a rake with all but one prong taken off.
My plan would be to gather everyone I know who I could get too ( Family being apriority ) Get everyone willing to gather at the storage place and fortify it, raid the local walmart and lowes with one of the moving trucks and then book back to the storage place. Establish it as a base and a fort.

And then maybe plan from there.

[TcH]

DominusPisces, on 19 March 2012 - 07:38 PM, said:

Sad as it is, I've given this some thought. I think a good place to hunker down would be the storage place down the road from me. Only two ways in, thick walls, and the entrance and exit could be fortified. There are several moving trucks at the property. Vehicles in several of the units, along with generators, lumber, chlorine ( Pool cleaning service stores there ) for drinking water, and access to the roof ( For maybe farming? ) I used to work there so I know where all the keys are and how to break into the idividule units. ( I think a resturant used to store non perishables there too ) There is a walmart near by along with a lowes.

As I have an affinity for medival weaponry I already have a few blades ( Some actually combat ready for reenactments ) Though I would need to aquire a flanged mace maybe a buckler sheild ( Though easy to make I'm sure ) I'm leaning more towards spears though for idela melee weapon ( Easy as hell to make with a kitchen knife and a stick ) Or a rake with all but one prong taken off.
My plan would be to gather everyone I know who I could get too ( Family being apriority ) Get everyone willing to gather at the storage place and fortify it, raid the local walmart and lowes with one of the moving trucks and then book back to the storage place. Establish it as a base and a fort.

And then maybe plan from there.

That sounds like quite a nice plan. The only thing i don't like is the thought of still being in a major part where there are a lot of houses and other buildings that is of course if the storage area is. With herds and what not passing through towns it wouldn't take long for them to be attracted to your building whether it be a tiny noise or you just on the roof farming.

But of course the argument there is once they realize there isn't any food left in the towns or cities they usually make their way outward, you just have to hope you can stay quiet enough and unseen for long enough to not attract a herd. Because once they get to your door and more and more. The chances of even being able to leave to get supplies is nion impossible. But of course i could be incredibly wrong

[xXHanzGruberXx]

I've also given this a fair amount of consideration. I believe that in order to survive you would want to avoid many of the cliche's from the movies. I would not hole up in a shopping center or anything like that. Obviously the resources would be nice but everyone else would be thinking the same way. I have plenty of experience hunting and fishing so provided animals aren't infected I think I'd be okay there. There are a few places around my house that are ideal as a "safe" place. One example would be the building my company uses for disaster recovery. The building is half buried and only has two exits. In order to get to the main area you have to use either an elevator or a narrow set of stairs with a heavy door at the bottom. Once inside there are between 20 and 25 offices so space wouldn't be an issue. The other option would be to travel 50 or so miles to my brothers lake house. It is away from the city but can only be reached by highway. It is surrounded by water on three sides and neighbors are scarce. I'll spare you specifics but I already own a variety of weapons and more ammo that I need now as it is.

I think its easy to set here and talk about what I'd do but who knows how I'd react. I'd like to think I'd survive but at what cost. Could I leave my friends and family (My wife's mom and dad) behind? I don't know. Glad I found this site though as I've been looking for others that appreciate a good what if scenario.

[DominusPisces]

TcH, on 19 March 2012 - 09:21 PM, said:

...... it wouldn't take long for them to be attracted to your building whether it be a tiny noise or you just on the roof farming....
....Because once they get to your door and more and more. The chances of even being able to leave to get supplies is nion impossible. But of course i could be incredibly wrong

Oh certainly. This plan requires 2 important things. Once the $hit hits the fan that I can get to everyone quickly enough, AND collectivly fortify the 2 gates. Then hope that not everyone has the same plan as me. Once done and IF we can get the neccesary supplies to start farming the roof, let Zack pound at the gates. So long as the gates hold we can hole up indefinatley. Barricading yourself in the ZA fails because people don't have a sustainable food supply. That would be moot. One problem is lack of water. I can't remember if the canal behind the place is man made ( Which requires pumping to keep level somewhere) Or just  a natural drain from the everglades. Well either way. It would be at least a good temp shelter to scour for supplies and deck out an escape vehicle.

[LUcifer]

I'd head up into the hills of Southeast Ohio & plop myself  down right by a lake. Good fishing & hunting, you can see things coming & nothing can really come at you from one side. A lake's also a good temporary escape route.

OR...I work at a Doggie Daycare in the city. The building is a converted warehouse. Thick cinder block walls to deaden the sound of barking will stand up strong against a herd. We have a huge yard outback(right next to a pharmacy, an automotive repair shop, & in back of us, a nursery!) that's fenced off very well with a 10 foot, chain link privacy fence. The yard would be great for gardening.

There's three different exits, one of which is the roof & the place next door to us butts up against the building & has a fire escape.

Always have a Plan B!

[Barry Cade]

DominusPisces, on 20 March 2012 - 03:42 AM, said:

Oh certainly. This plan requires 2 important things. Once the $hit hits the fan that I can get to everyone quickly enough, AND collectivly fortify the 2 gates. Then hope that not everyone has the same plan as me. Once done and IF we can get the neccesary supplies to start farming the roof, let Zack pound at the gates. So long as the gates hold we can hole up indefinatley. Barricading yourself in the ZA fails because people don't have a sustainable food supply. That would be moot. One problem is lack of water. I can't remember if the canal behind the place is man made ( Which requires pumping to keep level somewhere) Or just  a natural drain from the everglades. Well either way. It would be at least a good temp shelter to scour for supplies and deck out an escape vehicle.

I'm sure a herd would be able to take down some gates/ fences given enough Z-power.

[pyus]

TcH, on 19 March 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

First off id just like to say a big hi to everyone, been lurking on here for a while after borrowing and reading all 94 comics off a friend. I've been reading quite a few survival plans of other people and thought id put in my own 2 cents.

With me being from the UK the access to weapons such as guns are quite limited, but saying this infection is worldwide id work it like this.

With the infection starting and everyone knowing the epidemic as it stands, i already have a couple of weapons always on stand by. The crowbar and baseball bat in my wardrobe for easy access and of course nice hand to hand combat weapons when coming up against walkers. also a Remington 332, 12ga, 28" barrel shotgun in my loft which is used for clay pigeon shooting. Which i personally would cut down for easier close range shooting and storage. For if I've learnt anything from TWD is you only want to use your gun if very necessary.


Once I've got my weapons and established who of my friends and family etc. Is still alive. I'd set up camp for the first couple of weeks with supplies kept in the garage for emergencies (such as water, tinned goods etc.) In my house, cutting off access from the downstairs to the upstairs, of course boarding windows and doors downstairs for extra protection. Me and my best friend have always said my house would be safest due to the positioning and it being in a suburban area and well situated just outside of the small town close to the city. Although i still live with my mum (being 20 and trying to get a mortgage is never easy ) the thought of trying to save my girlfriend and every other person I've come to love is very tempting but of course id need to find out their situation before even attempting to. Apart from my mum and my best friend the only other person worth risking my life for would be my girlfriend.

If all has gone well and my plan of action has worked, we will have remained in the loft of my house rationing on tinned food and water with no more than 5/6 of us. Once the infection has taken its toll, and the country or world has been taken over. This is of course if the Army or any other national force hasn't been able to control the problem. We would want to make my way to my best friends Josh's holiday cottage in Richmond, North Yorkshire. About a 20 minute drive from Catterick Army Barracks. The reason we would have waited so long is hopefully although many more people are infected the roads and what not will already have been blocked from the traffic and its a lot easier to get past roamers than it is to get past a live person wanting you to stop. To drive from where i live which is outside Leeds, West Yorkshire. To Richmond is usualy about a hour and a half drive, so bikes would be our first option, although not very stable and protective when against roamers it will be a LOT easier to navigate through the traffic which i'm assuming will have taken its toll on all the major motorways, with people trying to escape.

Me, Josh and my girlfriend all luckily know how to ride motorbikes, so carrying passengers shouldn't be a problem to be honest, and with no more than hopefully 6 i don't see an issue with it. The journey to Richmond should take no longer than a day at most, that is with stops to take look of the area and stop off for supplies on the way from service stations and local shops. Once we arrive near Catterick the area is very rural and mostly farm land and small villages. So hopefully we won't encounter many walkers and if we do should be able to take care of them very easily. The only issue we have is that if there are some soldiers left at Catterick it's not going to be very easy or safe to get weapons or supplies from there but a risk me and Josh would gladly take to help get us set up at his cottage.

Once we've hopefully got some weapons and supplies from the barracks, we will head to the cottage which i previously stated is only a 20 minute drive away. And is situated about 200 yards from the top of a very large hill with big stone chimneys that run along the hill line. These chimneys were used for the disused coal mine used in Hurst just off where the cottage is located. The chimneys would hopefully be used for lookout points as they see for absolute miles, weather forbidding of course, which in England is never promising!

Anyway hopefully we will have a nice set up there, with log fires for warmth, there is already about 15 filled gas canisters outside for the cooker which hopefully will not have been looted by local farmers, and we will see what happens from there. Whether it be running into more survivors or losing people on the way.


The only concern i have is the locals themselves i cant imagine they would be very welcoming with everything that's been happening and mostly all of them being farmers and carrying guns. That and the hope the cottage will not already have people in it, but that road would be crossed when we got there.


Thanks for reading, that is of course if you could be bothered Any questions i'll gladly answer!


Tom!

Being in the UK my friend I think you are ignoring a vital resource that could be fantastic but you would have to have a group of people ready to exploit it and be willing to take on more then 6 people probably more around 60 so that you have a workforce. Use the castles man. I am not talking about the palaces either but the large medieval castles like Bodiam Castle near Sussex check out an ariel of that place it would be perfect. Here is the best part the really well maintained castles have been turned into tourist attractions so electricity has been run to most of them. Plus the have court yards for growing food. However you would need to have supplies like wind turbines batteries food etc and ready to go into a truck with the crap hits the fan and then at a predetermined point you all just go.

[DominusPisces]

Barry Cade, on 20 March 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

I'm sure a herd would be able to take down some gates/ fences given enough Z-power.

If they were activly trying, maybe. But they seem to just kind of mass up against it. Plus the gates are sturdy metal and slide to the side in tracks, they don't open by swinging in or out.

Besides even IF they get through the refortified and braced gate they'll never get through the barrier arm. Once that goes down. Nothing will get past it. Look at all the zombies at Disney land coralled by tiny peices of rope. certain instincts stay with us even when dead... LOL!

[Zombie Brains]

pyus, on 20 March 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

Being in the UK my friend I think you are ignoring a vital resource that could be fantastic but you would have to have a group of people ready to exploit it and be willing to take on more then 6 people probably more around 60 so that you have a workforce. Use the castles man. I am not talking about the palaces either but the large medieval castles like Bodiam Castle near Sussex check out an ariel of that place it would be perfect. Here is the best part the really well maintained castles have been turned into tourist attractions so electricity has been run to most of them. Plus the have court yards for growing food. However you would need to have supplies like wind turbines batteries food etc and ready to go into a truck with the crap hits the fan and then at a predetermined point you all just go.

Sorry for jumping in on this.

If the castles are open, how can castles be locked? Where are the keys? Do we have time to look? EDIT: I guess something could be pushed in the way of the door/exit/entrance or whatever. That could work, I guess.

If the castes are closed, how do we even get in? Doors on a castle are heavy and rather large! Now sure, if they're not made of stone (some are made of wood) then perhaps an axe and then fix it after we're in and make something so we can get in and out easy but would there be time for that? Hmm. Just a thought!
A really great idea though, I live about 20 miles from a really big castle....

Edited by Zombie Brains, 22 March 2012 - 10:13 PM.