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View PostAelle, on 24 March 2012 - 04:12 AM, said:

I'll be the first person to stand up against horrible fanfic writing, but this is a matter in which you and I won't see eye to eye. I don't see developing attachments or forming bonds over mutual pasts to be unrealistic or cheesy at all, and I don't think his relationship with Carol castrates him. If anything, he's a much better character for it, in my opinion. If he was just this tough redneck pumped up with testosterone he would be very one dimensional.

I agree completely.

Yes, this thread had made it quite clear that a lot of the hatred of Carol comes from people who hate that Daryl has human feelings and failings and has formed a friendship with a woman of roughly his own age with whom he has something in common.  Maybe Daryl has learned (as Shane did), that having someone and something for which to live makes it a lot easier to keep going.  Daryl’s remark to Hershel on the night the farm was overrun about “Tonight is as good a night as any” indicated to me that Daryl is fatalistic and does not expect to survive indefinitely.  Stoic and heroic as he is, Daryl knows that he is only human.

IMO, the whole point of the character of Daryl (and Shane to some degree), is that these big muscley gun-totin’ characters are human beings like everyone else, with feelings, weaknesses and emotional baggage.  Only a sociopath or a completely one-dimensional character is completely badass.  But TWD is supposed to be a drama attempting to depict human characters.

Besides which, I haven’t seen a romantic relationship yet.  Maybe it will happen but it hasn’t yet.  

So Rick and Daryl should wash their own clothes and scrub pots?  Or not.  But that way leads to health sapping lice and other vermin, fungi, bad food and outright disease.

IMO it is only a few fans who rant and rave about how useless Carol is.  On air, the only one who has ever indicated that she was a burden was Carol herself.  The group regards itself as a group, a kind of family and every member is valued.  I bet that Hershel’s family would not be the only ones mourning Jimmy and Patricia.

The plan to defend the farm was never going to work, because this was not just herd of walkers but a multitude, which the survivors had never experienced.  That plan, such as it was, more-or-less fell to pieces almost immediately.  Lori delayed as long trying to move Hershel as she did looking for Carl once the walkers had arrived.  By the time the women fled, the walkers were all around and the women scattered.  IMO opinion, the editing of the scene indicates that Carol screamed a warning as soon as she saw the walker behind Andrea.

BWR, you are joking, right?  Because the only things with which I’ve ever seen you savage anybody is your reasoning and wit.  



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View PostRainbowpony, on 23 March 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

Almost everyone met up on the highway.  They then left and went down the road until Rick ran out of gas and they stopped.  Rick was driving that big SUV, and Carol wasn't in it, and she wasn't in the car.  Nope, she was STILL riding behind Daryl.  Things that make me smile...

One tiny detail that I noticed about both motorbike scenes:
Carol was not holding on Daryl's waist (not until the ride got rockier due to the approaching walkers)
I wonder if that was the writers' or the actors' idea and found it wonderfully consistent with the characters.

IF a romance develops I hope the writers will do it very carefully since I cannot picture Daryl being in a relationship at all. For now I'm just enjoying the little bond these 2 are having and am curious what happens to that in season 3 when
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View PostAugustana, on 25 March 2012 - 06:51 PM, said:

One tiny detail that I noticed about both motorbike scenes:
Carol was not holding on Daryl's waist (not until the ride got rockier due to the approaching walkers)
I wonder if that was the writers' or the actors' idea and found it wonderfully consistent with the characters.

IF a romance develops I hope the writers will do it very carefully since I cannot picture Daryl being in a relationship at all. For now I'm just enjoying the little bond these 2 are having and am curious what happens to that in season 3 when
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Norman Reedus agrees with you XD He suggested that he was aiming for 'socially awkward' and/or 'virgin' in an interview on Attack of the Show.

I think they'd make very cute friends.



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View PostNareen, on 24 March 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:



BWR, you are joking, right?  Because the only things with which I’ve ever seen you savage anybody is your reasoning and wit.  



Apparently, you've never seen him talk about himself. :lol:

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View Postgracie lou, on 27 March 2012 - 03:13 AM, said:

Apparently, you've never seen him talk about himself. :lol:

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View Postbackwoodsroamer, on 27 March 2012 - 03:17 AM, said:

I call that bold talk from a woman who wears Snuggies.:zombie02:




Only when I am shambling around outside on a cold night. Raarrr!! :zombie02:

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View Postgracie lou, on 27 March 2012 - 03:22 AM, said:

Only when I am shambling around outside on a cold night. Raarrr!! :zombie02:

I just had a thought. What if you reanimated while wearing a Snuggie? You would be like a giant inchworm. All the other zombies would get all the tasty morsels while you were wiggling your way to the kill.



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View Postbackwoodsroamer, on 27 March 2012 - 03:36 AM, said:

I just had a thought. What if you reanimated while wearing a Snuggie? You would be like a giant inchworm. All the other zombies would get all the tasty morsels while you were wiggling your way to the kill.




They are open in the back, so I think they would just trip over it, and it would end up falling off. However, if you happened to reanimate whilst zipped up to the neck in a sleeping bag, you may be in trouble. :lol:




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