[TheLibrarian]

I'm just really pissed that it has taken so long, since Mr. Kirkman said it would be answered soon and not dragged out during the entire season. Well, it's taken all season.

[David]

TheLibrarian, on 05 March 2012 - 06:05 PM, said:

I'm just really pissed that it has taken so long, since Mr. Kirkman said it would be answered soon and not dragged out during the entire season. Well, it's taken all season.

Well of course, they want you to stay tuned. All shows do that. I'm glad I came across this site, because we'll be at Disney World so I was going to miss this next episode, which sounds like a whopper. I can't wait to get home and watch it.

[Ansceniiiic]

David, on 05 March 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

we'll be at Disney World so I was going to miss this next episode

Disney World over The Walking Dead? I question your priorities Mr!

[Sahmbie]

hey guys, i posted this on another thread, but wanted to mention it here, too:
i have NEVER been into spoilers, but last night while we were watching  the episode after it had been taped, the recording ended  EXACTLY in a moment of the preview that showed a group of zombies eating  a cow.  we noticed that one of the zombies had shane's shaved head.  we  said, "no way."  so we rolled back the previews to note shane's  clothes, and it was his jacket, too!!!  in rewatching the preview in  it's entirety, that clip was just  a flash.  one would have had to stop  it in that EXACT spot to notice that one of the walkers eating the cow  was shane.  i am devastated that AMC would show that clip!!!  it is by  mere chance that my DVR stopped at that second. others have been talking about this scene, and here's exactly what it showed in that frozen moment.  one zombie behind the cow facing the camera.  a zombie with a shaved head & a navy blue jacket to the left with his back turned & a zombie in a white & gray striped hoodie with his back turned to the right.  all kneeling eating the cow.

questions over whether the photo of zombie shane is real or not are totally quelled in my mind at this point after seeing that clip.  it's for real

[Sydney]

Whoo.  Can´t wait to see. I´m sorry about Shane´s fate. But from what you have  told..I can´t see Lori doing wrong in the talk with Shane, as many have  said before... nothing wrong with telling that you are sorry at how  things ended up.

Edited by Sydney, 05 March 2012 - 07:53 PM.

[zedhatch]

Shane dead and zombied-Been there done that, but I'm sure it will freak out people who never read the GN.  

Randell surprizes me though, I guess we will never know whose side he would have tried for ultimatly.  

Lori even though I don't like shane, if that rumor is true I'm gonna hate her even more now.

[Karno Dal]

Sahmbie, on 05 March 2012 - 07:51 PM, said:

hey guys, i posted this on another thread, but wanted to mention it here, too:
i have NEVER been into spoilers, but last night while we were watching  the episode after it had been taped, the recording ended  EXACTLY in a moment of the preview that showed a group of zombies eating  a cow.  we noticed that one of the zombies had shane's shaved head.  we  said, "no way."  so we rolled back the previews to note shane's  clothes, and it was his jacket, too!!!  in rewatching the preview in  it's entirety, that clip was just  a flash.  one would have had to stop  it in that EXACT spot to notice that one of the walkers eating the cow  was shane.  i am devastated that AMC would show that clip!!!  it is by  mere chance that my DVR stopped at that second. others have been talking about this scene, and here's exactly what it showed in that frozen moment.  one zombie behind the cow facing the camera.  a zombie with a shaved head & a navy blue jacket to the left with his back turned & a zombie in a white & gray striped hoodie with his back turned to the right.  all kneeling eating the cow.

questions over whether the photo of zombie shane is real or not are totally quelled in my mind at this point after seeing that clip.  it's for real

Spoiler

That's not Shane, and I say that for two reasons:

1. I just pulled the preview up on Youtube and stopped it on that scene.  There is a guys with a shaved head wearing a blue shirt/jacket, but it's obviousy not Jon Burnthall.

2. Assuming the spoiler synopsis is true, this would have to be the walkers dispatched by Andrea, Shane, Daryl, and T-Dog in the scenes intercut with Dale's funeral.

Edited by Karno Dal, 05 March 2012 - 08:46 PM.

[President Merle]

So...

Spoiler

if Shane-O dies in this episode, does this mean

Spoiler

Michonne will be in the Finale?

Spoiler

and do you guys like Spoilception? (a spoiler within a spoiler, within a spoiler )

[Matt]

President Merle, on 05 March 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

So...

Spoiler

if Shane-O dies in this episode, does this mean

Spoiler

Michonne will be in the Finale?

Spoiler

and do you guys like Spoilception? (a spoiler within a spoiler, within a spoiler )

Spoiler

According to the spoilers on SpoiledRotten, she is in fact in the finale. The AMC worker was actually on R&L for a brief period of time, and I recall him saying about Michonne's reveal that she ends up saving Andrea from zombies (I can assume the 'Andrea running in the woods' as seen in various promos by now is when it happens).

Edited by Matt, 05 March 2012 - 09:02 PM.

[Michonne's Sword]

President Merle, on 05 March 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

So...

Spoiler

if Shane-O dies in this episode, does this mean

Spoiler

Michonne will be in the Finale?

Spoiler

and do you guys like Spoilception? (a spoiler within a spoiler, within a spoiler )

Spoiler

It's been rumored for a loooong time and all but confirmed that Michonne appears in the finale of this season.

[President Merle]

Matt, on 05 March 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:

Spoiler

According to the spoilers, she is in fact in the finale. If I recall correctly, she saves Andrea from zombies (I can assume the 'Andrea running in the woods' as seen in various promos by now is when it happens).

Michonne, on 05 March 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

Spoiler

It's been rumored for a loooong time and all but confirmed that Michonne appears in the finale of this season.

Sweet! I read apparently

Spoiler

a stuntman who is allegedly playing one of her "pets" was bragging about it on Tumblr...

[Michonne's Sword]

President Merle, on 05 March 2012 - 09:03 PM, said:

Sweet! I read apparently

Spoiler

a stuntman who is allegedly playing one of her "pets" was bragging about it on Tumblr...

Spoiler

Yeah, that happened too.  It was the guy who played her zombified boyfriend. I believe there's a thread about it on this site somewhere, I just don't feel like looking for it.

[Ansceniiiic]

One thing that strikes me is why would AMC announce who would play the Governor, Rick, Shane, etc...

Spoiler

But keep the actress who will play Michonne a secret? Obvious answer would be to surprise fans, but you would think they would do that with several characters so plots and storylines aren't obvious. i,e Governor and the prison and so on.

[Wazzup4567]

I wish I knew if she was coming to the show in the finale.

I really wish it.

[TheLibrarian]

No offense but what's with all the spoiler tags? Hasn't it been established that they are not needed in this thread? Or maybe it was the finale thread, don't see why this one would be any different but well, let's just live and let live.

Edited by TheLibrarian, 05 March 2012 - 11:44 PM.

[Walker#11]

What are the rumors surronding the finalie? Will there be some kind of battle between the two camps? A large Zombie horde prehaps? Maybe somone stumbles across the prsion? And what about more charcter deaths? Shane will make the fourth major charcter dead this season, (if you count otis) but what about others? Jimmy, Beth, T-dog?

[Kikora]

I think killing Jimmy, Beth, or T-Dog would be kinda pointless, because they are kind of background characters right now. T-Dog in particular SHOULD have a leading role, but instead he is closer along the lines of 'that random guy who gets hurt at the worst times'. Killing him now would just anger comic fans, and ruins any chance for meaningful character dynamic between him and Daryl. They haven't really touched on the issue of race since Daryl saved him from the walkers.

Edited by Kikora, 06 March 2012 - 06:52 AM.

[Sheriff In Town]

Ansceniiiic, on 05 March 2012 - 09:20 PM, said:

One thing that strikes me is why would AMC announce who would play the Governor, Rick, Shane, etc...

Spoiler

But keep the actress who will play Michonne a secret? Obvious answer would be to surprise fans, but you would think they would do that with several characters so plots and storylines aren't obvious. i,e Governor and the prison and so on.

I think they may cast someone to fit her role that goes against what she looks like in the show. They may choose to make her white/asian/etc. Or, an even cooler idea, is they have a somewhat well known actress set to play her role. Either way, they're keeping the actress a surprise. I like the idea of bringing in a well known actress. Clearly it won't be someone really high budget, nor what I want that, but I'm thinking more along the lines of someone we'll just recognize for work elsewhere.

[patman345]

jesus christ I hate myself for reading all of this.

[Jimmy]

Damn all these spoilers. It's so easy for anyone on the set of TWD to post spoilers anonymously online at a public wi-fi spot.

Edited by Jimmy, 06 March 2012 - 08:13 AM.

[Alien Angie]

Ok...my thought on Shane. Yes Jon Bernthal is seriously seriously hot! The shower scene, the car sex scene...THANK YOU GOD!

BUT

Thats not the only reason I think he is the best character in the show. I was never a comic book reader until into the 2nd season when people were discussing TV vs comic, and I downloaded all 92 issues...and read them over the space of 3 days!

Being a fan of the comics, I have found myself a much bigger Shane fan. Why?

1/ TV Rick is a very much toned down version of his comic counterpart. TV Shane seems to have more of the rashness and the willingness to do whatever it takes thats is shown in Rick in the comic. Obviously TPTB dont want to show Rick

Spoiler

cutting up cannibals and making their friends watch

or

Spoiler

shooting someone in the head in the confusion of a gunfight because they pose a threat

because viewers will lose the sympathy they have for his character. Therefore they have to show those traits in someone else who is expendable...

2/ Its NOT Shane's fault. Its not. He was devoted to Rick. Come on, this was his best friend for what? 20, 30 years? He TRIED to save him. Leaving him behind broke his heart. He took it upon himself to take care of his friends, his BROTHERS family. To keep them safe. In a world that had gone to shit that was his one reason to live. When Rick came back, he was pushed away. No thanks from Lori. Nothing. Imagine how that must have felt. One day you have something worth living for, then in a split second. BOOM. Gone...

3/ He was pushed into the background by Rick...once Rick came to the camp he automatically took the spot as leader, Shane had been keeping them safe for however long, then almost immediately, in his eyes, became insignificatnt. BOOM...another blow

4/ Then there was the whole CDC vs Fort Benning debate. Once again he was shot down

5/ As for the attempted rape. Im not going into it. Im a woman, one of my best friends was raped just before Christmas and waited 2 months to tell us. We're still dealing with the aftermath and trying to get her to report it. Anyway...not important...not a nice thing. But I can understand where it came from. He was drunk. Not an excuse, but he was confused. He thought Lori loved him. He loved her and to suddenly find out with no warning, that it meant nothing to her. That he meant nothing to her was crippling for him

6/ Killing Otis. I dont blame Shane for this, and anything after this point. I cant. He volunteered to go on a suicide run because of his love for his brother, for Lori, for Carl. He wanted to do all he could to help because it was a hopeless situation. Carl was going to die, and he had an oppertunity to save him. He told Otis to leave him, more than once! He was hurt and couldnt move quickly and knew he was a burden and was more than willing to lie down and die so long as Carl lived. When he realised that Otis didnt have it in him to leave him behind and would more than likely get the both of them killed. And thus Carl...and possibly Rick and Lori through grief, he saw what was his only option and took it.
Who here can say in that situation they wouldnt have done the same? Honestly, I know hand on heart, 100% I would have

7/ Killing Otis ate Shane up alive, on his return to the camp, instead of being received with gratitude, it was with suspicion and hostility (especially from Dale) and pushed even further to the outside at the very time he needed to be embraced and comforted he was left alone for his thoughts, guilt and grief to eat him alive.

8/ So finally we get to the discovery of the walkers in the barn. Yay! Heres a chance to prove he has the survival group at heart. Get rid of the danger, kill the walkers. I mean, thats what theyve always done, right? A walker comes...it IS A THREAT so they kill it, and they live another day. But not this time. His best friend, his brother sides against him and chose the opinions of a stranger over him. BAM...another slap in the face right there. SO we have the massacre. Yes, I think it is universally accepted as the right decision, but as Andrea says. Its not his ideas that are wrong. Its the way he presents them

So really, is it any wonder that after all this, he is starting to crack? Seriously? Be objective here and try and see the whole situation through his eyes. Its not just the points I have listed here. Its the end of the frigging world. A zombie appocalypse! Shane has lost his entire family, his friends, EVERYTHING. All he had was this small band of survivors, and now they are against him too. And in his mind the reason they are is because of Rick. Fair enough, everything was fine before he came along, who's to say it wont be hunky dory again after hes gone? No-one needs to know he killed him, right?

Yes Im a Shane fan, but Im also a Rick fan. Im a tv fan, Im a comic fan...I love how the series is playing out, and i LOVE what JB is doing with Shane. He must have one of the hardest roles to play. As the fans we have an idea what Shane was like from the comic, but as we all know. In the comic

Spoiler

he dies early on

so JB has this character he has an idea of, but no real basis on how to play him. And he was done an amazing job. Just seems a pity, would love to see Shane stick around until the end

Angie

[TheLibrarian]

Regarding the full synopsis here are some pictures of Randall.

Spoiler

Randall

Spoiler

Zombie Randall

Edited by TheLibrarian, 06 March 2012 - 03:47 PM.

[Barry Cade]

TheLibrarian, on 06 March 2012 - 03:46 PM, said:

Regarding the full synopsis here are some pictures of Randall.

Spoiler

Randall

Spoiler

Zombie Randall

Spoiler

Surely his head should be on one side a-la Thriller...?

[Faith]

Alien Angie, good post.

[LA5648]

I had to come out of lurker world just to say nice post Angie.. well said!