[klmustang67]

Hey everyone, I have been on here quite a few times as I am addicted to this show as are many of you. Well I have a theory after watching last night's show and I had to join just to share and see what everyone thinks.

So as you know the two cops were infected without any bite marks, Rick suggests it must be through scratches, but I think we all agree something is up. I am not sure if this has been posted yet, but here is my thought...(I am going to filter it through a spoiler button)

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so along with the zombified cops we saw Rick glance over at a pile of bodies that were burnt. I think the cops burnt them and got infected by the smoke that they inhaled....the problem is the group has been burning the bodies for quite a while. So my thought is that they are all infected as a result of burning the zombies!!!!

Tell me what you think!

[DrAnguish]

Seems plausible enough to me.

[survivethebite]

Possibly. Although in that scene Rick did mention that one cop has scratches on his hand and the other cop had scratches on his cheek. This was an interesting scene and

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i think this rules out the whisper from jenner to rick about everyone being infected

[DerpinaKitty]

It seemed like he said that to move on to bringing Randall to the drop off point. Like he knew what really happened.

[Ryou]

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I don't get why people think Kirkman would change such an integral part of the comics, given that we've already seen evidence that it's just like the comics.

All fingers point to it being that they're all already infected and you become a zombie when you die. The two policemen probably died due to starvation/dehydration. It seemed like they had a camp set up on that bus, and had killed a couple of walkers, then burning them off.

Jenner did tell him that they are all infected. Rick hasn't told anyone else because either he didn't believe it until he saw the cops, or he felt like there was no need to alarm people, as that news will crush their hopes.

It's pretty obvious and all the pieces fit into the puzzle. Don't see why we need to overthink it.

Edited by Ryou, 27 February 2012 - 03:50 PM.

[Mr.Misery]

klmustang67, on 27 February 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Hey everyone, I have been on here quite a few times as I am addicted to this show as are many of you. Well I have a theory after watching last night's show and I had to join just to share and see what everyone thinks.

So as you know the two cops were infected without any bite marks, Rick suggests it must be through scratches, but I think we all agree something is up. I am not sure if this has been posted yet, but here is my thought...(I am going to filter it through a spoiler button)

Spoiler

so along with the zombified cops we saw Rick glance over at a pile of bodies that were burnt. I think the cops burnt them and got infected by the smoke that they inhaled....the problem is the group has been burning the bodies for quite a while. So my thought is that they are all infected as a result of burning the zombies!!!!

Tell me what you think!

Interesting Theory.

I thought when he double checked the bodies he realized that you don't have to be bit or scratched to become infected. I might be way off though.

If the smoke infected people wouldn't some of the group at the farm be zombies already. I thought they burned some zombies there.

[Ironmangray]

Ryou, on 27 February 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

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I don't get why people think Kirkman would change such an integral part of the comics, given that we've already seen evidence that it's just like the comics.

All fingers point to it being that they're all already infected and you become a zombie when you die. The two policemen probably died due to starvation/dehydration. It seemed like they had a camp set up on that bus, and had killed a couple of walkers, then burning them off.

It's pretty obvious and all the pieces fit into the puzzle. Don't see why we need to overthink it.

I don't know about the starvation aspect, but I agree with everything else.

[wingchun]

The problem with the everyone is already infected theory is continuity.  All those dead bodies in the cars they looted at the traffic jam should all have been active Z's unless someone went through every car shooting them all sometime in the past.

Everyone already infected does make sense since they have thrown away  casual or superficial infected blood as a source of infection. Almost every episode someone ends with Z blood on their face or hands an no infections.

[Mr.Misery]

wingchun, on 27 February 2012 - 03:59 PM, said:

The problem with the everyone is already infected theory is continuity.  All those dead bodies in the cars they looted at the traffic jam should all have been active Z's unless someone went through every car shooting them all sometime in the past.

Everyone already infected does make sense since they have thrown away  casual or superficial infected blood as a source of infection. Almost every episode someone ends with Z blood on their face or hands an no infections.

I always feel like I'm nit picking when I bring that up. I feel it's a big deal though.

[TheWalkingDad]

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In the comics it is never states the walkers are "infected", remember that. Only thing is that when you die you turn into a walker.  It could be demonic or supernatural.  That is something that was never been revealed in the comics.

Also, Shane was dead for what amounted to about a month before he turned. The time it takes from death to reanimation varies greatly from person to person at least in the comics.

Edited by gracie lou, 27 February 2012 - 07:11 PM.
fixed spoiler tags

[Sheriff In Town]

klmustang67, on 27 February 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Hey everyone, I have been on here quite a few times as I am addicted to this show as are many of you. Well I have a theory after watching last night's show and I had to join just to share and see what everyone thinks.

So as you know the two cops were infected without any bite marks, Rick suggests it must be through scratches, but I think we all agree something is up. I am not sure if this has been posted yet, but here is my thought...(I am going to filter it through a spoiler button)

Spoiler

so along with the zombified cops we saw Rick glance over at a pile of bodies that were burnt. I think the cops burnt them and got infected by the smoke that they inhaled....the problem is the group has been burning the bodies for quite a while. So my thought is that they are all infected as a result of burning the zombies!!!!

Tell me what you think!

I think it's a very creative theory and nothing has happened so far to disprove it, so no one can really deem it wrong. However, I just can't see the writers taking this route because Shane and T-Dog were burning bodies last episode and so far Shane hasn't shown signs of turning.

I also strongly believe that everybody is already infected and that when you die, that is when you become reanimated whether the death is by walker bite or its by starvation. I have no idea how those two guards died though.

[mikemcdee]

There are a couple of things that I wanted to address in this thread.  The Z's in the cars that were dead was a question that Kirkman frantically tried to explain on The Talking Dead after show.  He said they could have died from any sort of head trauma.  He didn't say they could have died lots of ways, he specified head trauma.  Meaning the only way to really kill someone is, you guessed it, head trauma.  In the moment he looked pained to answer it like that because he knew if he didn't describe it like that, he would have people nagging him about his statement.  I'm still not sure as to what it was that Jenner said to Rick.  I'm pretty sure Kirkman said it would be revealed this season.  

@thewalkingdad:

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I don't think it took that long for Shane to reannimate. I'm pretty confindent that he turned soon after Carl shot him. It's just that he was burried and couldn't move. Digging oneself out of a grave would be tough as a non zed.

[Kat]

I may be splitting hairs here, but there is a difference between being "infected" and being symptomatic.  

One can be infected with something which can lie dormant and not show the ultimate result for a considerable period of time (think HIV).  

In this case, the catalyst for transformation is death.  Now we know that walker bites are lethal - lead to the fever, death, eventual turn.  

However, one could be infected and just carry the. . .whatever it is.  

I seriously doubt that we will ever get an effective explanation for what this is.  Of course, we logical folks will continue to look for one, so let's carry on with the theorizing!  

[klmustang67]

I am a little slow, but could the title of show then imply that "the walking dead" isn't just the zombies, but the actual people themselves?

[Walker Bait]

That has actually been said by the writer/creator. Walking Dead refers to the survivors.

[Sheriff In Town]

mikemcdee, on 27 February 2012 - 07:33 PM, said:

There are a couple of things that I wanted to address in this thread.  The Z's in the cars that were dead was a question that Kirkman frantically tried to explain on The Talking Dead after show.  He said they could have died from any sort of head trauma.  He didn't say they could have died lots of ways, he specified head trauma.  Meaning the only way to really kill someone is, you guessed it, head trauma.  In the moment he looked pained to answer it like that because he knew if he didn't describe it like that, he would have people nagging him about his statement.  I'm still not sure as to what it was that Jenner said to Rick.  I'm pretty sure Kirkman said it would be revealed this season.  

@thewalkingdad:

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I don't think it took that long for Shane to reannimate. I'm pretty confindent that he turned soon after Carl shot him. It's just that he was burried and couldn't move. Digging oneself out of a grave would be tough as a non zed.

Good catch! That would be a perfect way to explain why none of those people had reanimated...I'm actually a little impressed with the writers because that would have been a large loop hole. Thanks for sharing.

[The Govener]

In the comics ricks most famous line ever is "we are the walking dead" and not to be mean or rude but that smoke theory is proposurous the group have burned about 20 bodys they have nothing i think rick just didnt want to tell.shane there all infected because he knows what a dangerous idiot he is or rick just doesnt believe it yet he hasnt seen anyone die without being bit or shot in the head so he hasnt been able to put his theory to the test... And kirkman has said numerous times that the people on the highway have suffered some type of head trauma

[Cammi]

TheWalkingDad, on 27 February 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

Spoiler

In the comics it is never states the walkers are "infected", remember that. Only thing is that when you die you turn into a walker.  It could be demonic or supernatural.  That is something that was never been revealed in the comics.

Also, Shane was dead for what amounted to about a month before he turned. The time it takes from death to reanimation varies greatly from person to person at least in the comics.

Remember:  

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Shane was buried not very long after he was killed.  He probably turned after he was buried, but was unable to get out of the ground until Rick dug him out.

[evilledeadguy]

klmustang67, on 27 February 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Hey everyone, I have been on here quite a few times as I am addicted to this show as are many of you. Well I have a theory after watching last night's show and I had to join just to share and see what everyone thinks.

So as you know the two cops were infected without any bite marks, Rick suggests it must be through scratches, but I think we all agree something is up. I am not sure if this has been posted yet, but here is my thought...(I am going to filter it through a spoiler button)

Spoiler

so along with the zombified cops we saw Rick glance over at a pile of bodies that were burnt. I think the cops burnt them and got infected by the smoke that they inhaled....the problem is the group has been burning the bodies for quite a while. So my thought is that they are all infected as a result of burning the zombies!!!!

Tell me what you think!

I find that highly unlikely.  All smoke is is incinerated matter.  Chances are a virus, microbe, fungi, parasite could not stand the heat.

[Major Tom]

Kat, on 27 February 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

I may be splitting hairs here, but there is a difference between being "infected" and being symptomatic.  

One can be infected with something which can lie dormant and not show the ultimate result for a considerable period of time (think HIV).  

In this case, the catalyst for transformation is death.  Now we know that walker bites are lethal - lead to the fever, death, eventual turn.  

However, one could be infected and just carry the. . .whatever it is.  

I seriously doubt that we will ever get an effective explanation for what this is.  Of course, we logical folks will continue to look for one, so let's carry on with the theorizing!  

I think you've got it Kat.

[nrg8]

evilledeadguy, on 17 March 2012 - 11:51 PM, said:

I find that highly unlikely.  All smoke is is incinerated matter.  Chances are a virus, microbe, fungi, parasite could not stand the heat.

Yet smokers get cancer and other diseases from incinerated matter, so what's to say this hasn't been a long time coming due to prolonged exspoure?

[lastman2012]

nrg8, on 18 March 2012 - 01:47 AM, said:

Yet smokers get cancer and other diseases from incinerated matter, so what's to say this hasn't been a long time coming due to prolonged exspoure?

So you are suggesting that second hand smoke caused the apocalypse?