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It looks like the show has tried to close the never-ending-gasoline-supply plot hole with the Sanctuary using corn stalks to make ethanol, and every other scene we saw people traveling on horseback, except for Daryl and his bike. I don't know that it's possible for them to make enough to keep a fleet of cars and trucks mobile, but motorcycles is possible.


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I am wondering where they are getting these horses. You would think this late in the game, most horses would be eaten. I don't think the DC area had a high population of wild horses.

 

Before this season, I don't recall seeing any settlement with horses other than the Kingdom which was partially destroyed/set on fire.


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Wild horses existon an island shared by Virginia and Maryland. That's not far at all from where Rick and the gang are. Now, their survival is another matter. Not many people there at all save for tourists and Park workers. Would they be around? Can they be readily domesticated by the Kingdom's riders? I have no idea. But in a show with a trained tiger that knows bad guys from good guys I guess those horses could have made it.

https://www.nps.gov/...ture/horses.htm


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It looks like the show has tried to close the never-ending-gasoline-supply plot hole with the Sanctuary using corn stalks to make ethanol, and every other scene we saw people traveling on horseback, except for Daryl and his bike. I don't know that it's possible for them to make enough to keep a fleet of cars and trucks mobile, but motorcycles is possible.

At first I thought they were making moonshine!


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I am wondering where they are getting these horses. You would think this late in the game, most horses would be eaten. I don't think the DC area had a high population of wild horses.

 

Before this season, I don't recall seeing any settlement with horses other than the Kingdom which was partially destroyed/set on fire.

 

I remember only a couple of fires at the Kingdom when the Saviors came, one of them set by Ezekiel as a diversion, and none of them widespread.  Did we ever see what happened to the Kingdom's horses?  Maybe they were unharmed.


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At first I thought they were making moonshine!

 

As did I. On the American frontier during the colonial & early republic period, whiskey was used a barter currency. Since moving large quantities of corn was not practical, converting it into moonshine made perfect sense. One of the reasons western PA farmers got so riled up and rose in a short lived rebellion when the government put a tax on whiskey.


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At first I thought they were making moonshine!

 

If they were smart that's what they would be doing. You can make a lot of friends by giving out free booze.


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As did I. On the American frontier during the colonial & early republic period, whiskey was used a barter currency. Since moving large quantities of corn was not practical, converting it into moonshine made perfect sense. One of the reasons western PA farmers got so riled up and rose in a short lived rebellion when the government put a tax on whiskey.

 

The takeaway is: Don't piss off the drunks!


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More like they want Norman Reedus to still look cool, regardless of being relevant.


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More like they want Norman Reedus to still look cool, regardless of being relevant.

 

 

I'm sure that's true.  I heard somewhere that the cast took riding lessons but Reedus refused.  Probably so he could look cool on his motorcycle.


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I'm sure that's true.  I heard somewhere that the cast took riding lessons but Reedus refused.  Probably so he could look cool on his motorcycle.

I hope that's not true. I understand managing his brand, it does make him money. But he's a great actor and someday he won't be able to play a Daryl. Someday he'll need to be a Hershel. Just like Michonne facing off guns with her trusty sword. It's always dumb no matter how cool it looks, and it detracts from the best parts of the show. 


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still think Daryl should of stopped at the prison and grabbed his old bike. that one was a bad motorcycle.

Or at the very least Glenn and Tara should of road off on it..


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Reedus doesn't need riding lessons, he was on horseback during Season 2 (Nervous Nelly, the horse that throw him off causing him to have a halicunation of Merle).


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Reedus doesn't need riding lessons, he was on horseback during Season 2 (Nervous Nelly, the horse that throw him off causing him to have a halicunation of Merle).

 

Good point - I'd forgotten that.   


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Good point - I'd forgotten that.   

Well, he DID get thrown...
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I found it funny that the answer to the horse question was answered tonight with the scene of Maggie breaking the horse in the ring.  Seems like Angela Kang knows what our questions are going to be and has already prepared answers for them and in a timely manner.  She is sooooo the opposite of Gimple!


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I remember some people were fearful that her close association to previous show runners would mean she'd be beholden to past ideologies, but as a writer all she can do is write the story suggested by the bosses. If it's a bad story idea, she's stuck. But as a writer who knows the characters and the history, she can go forward while understanding what the show's really about.

Now, Gimple was also a writer prior to his tenure, but in fairness to Gimple he followed a man who also made mistakes in Mazzara. I think Gimple believed Kirkman was the magic, with good reason since Mazzara's choices were the lesser to Kirkman's source.

Unfortunately Gimple also seemed to buy the season 2 complaints were legitimate, and character work suffered.

Kang seems to understand that character work matters most of all.

Personally I believe Kirkman strayed too far into the fantastic as his comic progressed (I haven't read, but I know what was from the comic to date). Hopefully Kang will tone down that element considerably. But that's my wish. I think the real evidence is that what's hurt the series is the character mistakes (including killing off liked people in pornographically grotesque fashion.)

Right now Kang seems to get it.


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I found it funny that the answer to the horse question was answered tonight with the scene of Maggie breaking the horse in the ring.  Seems like Angela Kang knows what our questions are going to be and has already prepared answers for them and in a timely manner.  She is sooooo the opposite of Gimple!

 

It doesn't explain where they came from though, which is what the question was. Even if Maggie is knowledgeable in horse breeding from her time on the farm, a year and half isn't enough time to breed and raise a stable of horses from a mating pair.


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I believe they had many horses in Kingdom from beginning. We just didn´t see all of them until now, but it seemed to be their main way to travel. Maybe some were in the Hilltop as well, as they had other animals as well.

Maybe they started to breed horses from the beginning of apocalypse. It takes long time but still it´s something that would be wise to do, really.

As for Norman Reedus and horses, I have readen interview about him being a bit afraid of horses. He did the horse scene in season 2, which tells he still can do it if he wants to. I suppose he prefers the motorcycle for Daryl and if he is uncomfortable with horses, he might have refused for the horse as he is now one of the main stars after all... His words count better?


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