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I took it to mean that he would kill Morgan if he had to.

 

Morgan did not really seem to have completely accepted this philosophy even toward the end of the flashback. I suppose he had to make it up as he went along.


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Like I said, Morgan is still as broken/crazy as ever, Eastman just basically taught him to harness his feelings in a different way. Kind of like how some forms of addiction therapy teach one to replace an addiction with a more productive addiction (think Alive Cooper giving up booze and drugs for golf).

 

I think Eastman was gone too, and knew it. He was basically just wearing a mask, a veneer of sanity, like the guy who murdered his family had. He was doing his best to live with it, even if he had been apparently unscathed by the ZA, much like Morgan. Both men blame themselves for the deaths of their loved ones, and that is what broke them. Like Eastman said, out of the 800-some people he had interviewed only 1 was a truly born crazy psychopath, the rest were basically broken by the circumstances of their lives. There was hope for them to be taught to mask their problems, to live with them.

 

The sad thing is that while Eastman's philosophy works perfectly fine in the real world, and frankly would make the world a better place, that world is long dead in TWD, and more often than not pacifism lead to death the post-zombie world. Morgan needs to find the balance between the two extremes. And I predict he will...moments before he is killed off.


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Morgan needs to start reading between the lines. Life isn't all black and white anymore.

 

His cheese-making sensai told him "All life is precious / People are what matter now"

 

And it's still true. But in order to save the precious lives of the people that matter - you're going to need to off the ones out there that don't.


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Morgan needs to start reading between the lines. Life isn't all black and white anymore.

His cheese-making sensai told him "All life is precious / People are what matter now"

And it's still true. But in order to save the precious lives of the people that matter - you're going to need to off the ones out there that don't.


Of course you can still value the lives of evil men. That shouldn't deter you from what needs doing. Just put things in perspective.

The wolves need to die. There's no question. Maybe capture some to question, but not to preserve their lives.

Morgan's philosophy is fine if he's on his own. After all he only has himself to worry about. It doesn't work that way in a group. When people depend on you, you make sacrifices for them.

Morgan can respect the lives of the wolves in various ways. He can kill them quickly versus... creatively for instance. Acknowledging that when all else fails, the taking of a life should be done as humanely as possible is a valid code in these za times
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Everyone doesn't have to agree with Rick. But people need to intelligently argue with him. Morgan is ridiculous. And I'm not sure what Michonne's deal with him is because she's been there with him and really he hasn't acted too strange toward the Alexandrians. She just disagrees with him out of character so that there will be some tension.

 

Tyreese had no point. That whole "gotta pay the toll" or whatever bull all the dead characters kept saying at his death scene didn't mean anything. They had no idea what they were doing with the character and just killed him off. 

Michonne has earned the right to argue/disagree with Rick because she saved his life from the Governor and a few times before/after that. Like Daryl and Glenn have earned that right, so (now) does Carol. It's a trust thing, a survival thing. 
Gotta remember that the comic/show don't/won't always jive with each other. Lots of characters from the comics, their arcs are different than those of the show. Tyreese was one of many characters who were considered "main characters", that needed to die off so the show doesn't make Rick's group The Justice League or Avengers... they don't die. As far as HOW the characters are written to die is of course, left to the imagination of the show runners, writers, etc. 

Watch it until you can't stand it. Then find something else to move on to. 
Meanwhile, I'll be hanging around for the duration of the show. 

 

 


Of course you can still value the lives of evil men. That shouldn't deter you from what needs doing. Just put things in perspective.

The wolves need to die. There's no question. Maybe capture some to question, but not to preserve their lives.

Morgan's philosophy is fine if he's on his own. After all he only has himself to worry about. It doesn't work that way in a group. When people depend on you, you make sacrifices for them.

Morgan can respect the lives of the wolves in various ways. He can kill them quickly versus... creatively for instance. Acknowledging that when all else fails, the taking of a life should be done as humanely as possible is a valid code in these za times

 

If you're talking about execution, <shrugs>, you wanna be humane? Ok, but for me the punishment fits the crime. Nothing hammers home the impact of what they've done,  when it's happening to them. 
Of course a sudden 9mm brain hemorrhage, does the trick too. 


Edited by DeadCave, 04 November 2015 - 08:15 AM.

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There is no reasonable excuse regardless of ones philosophy for hiding a cold calculating murderer who looks you and everyone else in the eye and tells you they are going to kill you, everyone else and even your children, when you are completely certain they will, when they have already done it and the proofs stains the street you walk away from them on. How many times has he begged his 'friends' those who cared for him after he tried to kill THEM, to 'kill me?" Morgan is a pathetic creature, perhaps mercy will be extended him soon.


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