[ThatEpicBeast U Know]

TALK, PEOPLE!

 

 

 

THAT FRICKING LAST PAGE THO!!

 

#Savage

[buzzfactory]

Not sure what to make of this issue. Feel like somethings been building for a long time now, and each issue, it feels like it never goes anywhere.

 

Am I wrong to think Zeke left to go catch up to Michonne? Hoping it wasnt his blood on alphas machete.

 

Were all the walkers at the end, actual walkers or whisperers? or a mix?

 

I did like the issue, just seems like theres a bit too much going on in too many different places that isnt amounting to anything.

 

I liked Carls speech, thought it actually gave a decent backbone to what some people might think was a stupid decision 

[ThatEpicBeast U Know]

Not sure what to make of this issue. Feel like somethings been building for a long time now, and each issue, it feels like it never goes anywhere.

 

Am I wrong to think Zeke left to go catch up to Michonne? Hoping it wasnt his blood on alphas machete.

 

Were all the walkers at the end, actual walkers or whisperers? or a mix?

 

I did like the issue, just seems like theres a bit too much going on in too many different places that isnt amounting to anything.

 

I liked Carls speech, thought it actually gave a decent backbone to what some people might think was a stupid decision 

To answer your Ezekiel question: Ezekiel probably doesn't know Michonne left... I think.

 

To answer your Herd question: The ROAMERS are ROAMERS, not Whisperers.

[Koibito]

But didnt Carl want to get the hell out of dodge last issue together with Lydia? He really REALLY doesnt want to be there, so what actually happend? He wants Lydia safe...sure...but...why wouldnt he want to go back? 

 

 

I'm confused. (Have only so far read the synopsis, so I'll re-evaluate how he acts when i get ahold of proper scans)

[PorkTornado75]

MEh...... the preview trolled me this month.

 

I thought there was going to be something big in this issue because of the two panel preview yet nothing big happened.

 

But in the letter hacks Kirkman says Negan use to be a used car salesman lol

[ThatEpicBeast U Know]

But didnt Carl want to get the hell out of dodge last issue together with Lydia? He really REALLY doesnt want to be there, so what actually happend? He wants Lydia safe...sure...but...why wouldnt he want to go back? 

 

 

I'm confused. (Have only so far read the synopsis, so I'll re-evaluate how he acts when i get ahold of proper scans)

The Whisperers don't care about Carl's battle scars, unlike the Communities, who made him wear the shades.

[ThatEpicBeast U Know]

MEh....

 

But in the letter hacks Kirkman says Negan use to be a used car salesman lol

Yes.

[PorkTornado75]

The Whisperers don't care about Carl's battle scars, unlike the Communities, who made him wear the shades.

Nobody forced Carl to wear the shades it was his own insecurity's that made him wear the glasses.

[Koibito]

Wait....used car sales man?

 

I recall both Dale and Tyreese being car salesman. Hmm. Coincidence?

 

Or is it....

 

The Triforce of car salesmen? 

 

 

Not disappointed or anything, but I do still think he seemed more like a former biker/mafioso/bouncer.

[theblackboxlies]

All I have to say is holy fuck that's a horde and a half.

[theblackboxlies]

Nobody forced Carl to wear the shades it was his own insecurity's that made him wear the glasses.

 

Yeah this is true. Carl is just thinking with his dick and is really throwing Rick under the bus and being unappreciative of what Rick has done for him over the years to keep him alive. I mean, does he not remember his father is missing a hand, has been shot up multiple times and has a bum leg? I say leave the ungrateful shit to the whisperers. He could have that Anna girl or even Sophia, and Carl is kind of putting everyone at risk, because he should have known Rick would go after him. 

 

Kind of hoping we didn't get an off panel death of Andrea, Michonne and Dante. I can't imagine Kirkman would do that. Ugh.

[Dead Gov Walking]

I swear to god if I see another issue where someone says "YOU'RE THE RICK GRIMES" or the like....

as for that last page....yeah I hope that's walkers otherwise it's pretty fuckin stupid

Gonna have to hope kirkman isn't bullshitting in Hacks and it actually is a herd/hoard 

[PorkTornado75]

I swear to god if I see another issue where someone says "YOU'RE THE RICK GRIMES" or the like....

as for that last page....yeah I hope that's walkers otherwise it's pretty fuckin stupid

Gonna have to hope kirkman isn't bullshitting in Hacks and it actually is a herd/hoard 

Agree.............some things are getting pretty stupid.

[leegreenman]

Pretty good issue. I think Carl's attachment to Lydia is pretty believable for someone his age. Alpha and the wisperers are definitely shaping up to be more of a formidable threat than I anticipated. I'm starting think that something major may happen which requires Negan being called into active duty.

[ThatEpicBeast U Know]

Nobody forced Carl to wear the shades it was his own insecurity's that made him wear the glasses.

That's what I meant.  I thought you knew what I meant.  Sorry.  What I was trying to say was that Carl put those glasses on because he knew people would shun him or something.

[PorkTornado75]

That's what I meant.  I thought you knew what I meant.  Sorry.  What I was trying to say was that Carl put those glasses on because he knew people would shun him or something.

Werd up ......peer pressure is a bitch.

[I Heart Penny]

I actually really liked Carl's speech about his eye and Rick not being able to accept his disfigured face. It goes back all the way to Volume 15 when Carl was in a coma after being shot, and Rick was wondering if Carl's life was even worth living anymore. Rick knew how hard it would be for Carl to grow up with those scars....maybe some part of him still can't accept that he failed Carl. He may have rebuild civilization and created a peaceful world to live in....but Carl's face will always be a reminder to Rick that he couldn't give him a 'normal' life.

 

It's almost kinda poetic...the world is permanently scarred by the zombie apocalypse and Rick is doing his best to fix that scarring, like the scars on Carl's face that he prefers to see behind shades. Rick can't heal the damage done to his son, and he can't heal the damage done to the world, as much as he tries.

 

This guy's lost a hand, a knee, was shot three times, and now he's losing his son and possibly everything hes worked for....dam Rick can't catch a break. Lol

[JesusMonroe]

Nobody forced Carl to wear the shades it was his own insecurity's that made him wear the glasses.

I think it's the fact that people constantly wince at him that makes him feel like he has to wear the shades, though. To Rick, Carl's face is kind of a reminder of the things that Rick couldn't do

 

I mean, I'm not expecting Carl to be 100% rational when assigning blame for why he has to wear the shades or be 100% grateful to Rick. It's hard to forgot but Carl's still a kid. I'm always reminded of that time when Negan told Carl how "awesome" his eye-hole looked and Carl began to cry. Kids are sensitive about a lot of things--appearance nearly topping the list

[The_Landlord]

Carl: Dad I'm not leaving!

 

Rick (to Alpha): I'd like to take my son and go.

[jacob]

It kind if upsets me knowing how much Rick is losing/ lost already. Its screaming out for Negan to help him hence Maggie's potential outburst at Rick. I can imagine Negan refusing to help until Rick says pretty please or something ridiculous. For the first time in a long time I'm starting to get excited with the on goings in the main story however, I feel like there's about 20 subplots that I've lost interest in.

[PorkTornado75]

I feel like there's about 20 subplots that I've lost interest in.

This was my biggest concern with adding so many characters during and after All Out War.

 

The book is becoming a bit of a jumbled mess seems like Kirkman might have to many irons in the fire at the moment.

[Mr. NomNom]

When kirkman talked about how he likes to torture Rick he wasn't lying.

I get the fact that it's a threat but for once. Just once can we meet people as a huge group and not have an enemy? We all pretty much knew what was going to happen. I want to see a bit more world rebuilding before another super huge threat comes along.

Alpha seems super confident. She must have destroyed places over and over again. It's annoying with the human species on the edge of extinction we are still killing innocent people.

[rohlinmt]

The thing that bothered me about this whole issue was that if Rick just once treated things diplomatically instead of being a huge jerk, everything would have been fine.

 

1. He encounters the Whisperer who knows of his son shortly after saying how reasonable they sound. Does he say:

 

"I'm the leader of our community and I'm here to see my son.  Will you take me to him?"  Nope, it's:

"Take me to my son or you're dead!"

 

2. He's then all "We have to make a break for it!"  He needed to treat the situation more like a visiting diplomat than a prisoner, because that's really what he is.

 

3. When he meets Alpha, he makes no effort to talk leader-to-leader, it's just whining and threats.  State why you came, and explain that your intent is not to disrupt, but just to find your son and ensure his welfare.  You might even thank her for--oh, I don't know--not killing him, extending kindness and sympathy to him, and NOT making him wear a flesh suit.  

 

4. When she says it's time to take a walk, walk and talk with her, LEADER-TO-LEADER.  Her gun wouldn't be necessary, and the entire trip itself might not be necessary if you just TALK.  "What are things that you need?: ... "How can my group help yours?", etc.

 

Rick was just so out of character all issue, it just grinded my brain.  Maybe it wasn't that he was out of character, but that his character has changed.  I don't know.

[darthdre758]

The thing that bothered me about this whole issue was that if Rick just once treated things diplomatically instead of being a huge jerk, everything would have been fine.

 

1. He encounters the Whisperer who knows of his son shortly after saying how reasonable they sound. Does he say:

 

"I'm the leader of our community and I'm here to see my son.  Will you take me to him?"  Nope, it's:

"Take me to my son or you're dead!"

 

2. He's then all "We have to make a break for it!"  He needed to treat the situation more like a visiting diplomat than a prisoner, because that's really what he is.

 

3. When he meets Alpha, he makes no effort to talk leader-to-leader, it's just whining and threats.  State why you came, and explain that your intent is not to disrupt, but just to find your son and ensure his welfare.  You might even thank her for--oh, I don't know--not killing him, extending kindness and sympathy to him, and NOT making him wear a flesh suit.  

 

4. When she says it's time to take a walk, walk and talk with her, LEADER-TO-LEADER.  Her gun wouldn't be necessary, and the entire trip itself might not be necessary if you just TALK.  "What are things that you need?: ... "How can my group help yours?", etc.

 

Rick was just so out of character all issue, it just grinded my brain.  Maybe it wasn't that he was out of character, but that his character has changed.  I don't know.

 

I agree with all of this.  Rick was just so...un-Rick.  It hurt to read it.  Make a run for it?  Right.  Especially after Alpha's away team totally snuck up on you.  You do that.

 

Also, I don't think Alpha killed anyone in the group Rick was with.  None of the other Whisperers who were watching them were seen back at camp.  Of course...how could you tell really?  But that's just me.

[riyia]

The machete looks familiar...

 

https://www.telltale...gdead/michonne/