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Yes the dude gets it done. He sees what he wants and gets it. He almost never let's his emotions get in the way.

I think my ultimate fictional role model would be a combo of Franis Underwood and Don Draper.
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Don't get me wrong. I love FU, but he's a straight up villain protagonist


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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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That's kind of dark, Omen. He ruthlessly murdered two people that didn't deserve it. That's not really "hero" material.

 

What a phenomenal season! Just...non stop, on the edge of my seat storytelling. I love how they make seemingly insignificant characters feel like a necessity to the overall story. 


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No doubt they didn't deserve it. Yet I IMO I don't any hereo will be perfect they'll all have some sort of stain.

I mentioned to my wife that a combo of FU and Don Draper would be awesome.
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Frank and Claire... the ultimate power couple.
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Yes they are.
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Are we absolutely certain that Doug is dead? I doubt that he is, given his cold, lifeless expression after receiving the bludgeoning. Yet still, I hope that isn't the last we've seen of him. He was my favorite character next to Lucas. Speaking of Lucas, I do wish to see more of him in Season 3. 


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Nah. Doug is unfortunately dead. I thought it was a fitting and tragic end to his character. It also parallels the way Frank's ancestor died in the Civil War
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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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Oh shit! You're right about the parallel between the two deaths. I hadn't even noticed that. 


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Yup. House of Cards is actually a deeper show than some give it credit for. There's so much meticulous plotting that stuff that happens in Season 1 might not come back until Season 3. It's good stuff
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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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Speaking of the third season, has there been any word on when it is expected to release? The last news I heard was that production had been delayed.


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Thought this was cool. Two of my favorite shows' intros mashed together.

 


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Just started watching this show the other day. I'm liking it so far!

 

Also, season three is being added on Netflix tomorrow. 


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Season 3 is just as good as the other two.  The first couple of espisodes were kind of ho-hum, but then it gets really good.  I like the way NetFlix gives you the entire season at one time.


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Season 3 was a let down for me........really not that great imo.


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I liked Season 3 a great deal but I think there will be some criticism because of the shift in focus from what we had in the first two seasons. It was surprising.

 

I felt like the overall story was the main purpose in season 1 and 2 (mission to become VP, mission to become POTUS). Season 3 is more focused on each characters emotional reflection to what they've done. Particularly, the relationship story between Frank and Claire ends up being the main plot (instead of what was expected - the overall story in the reelection plot).

 

Also, Frank's emotional reactions were much more deemphasized as compared to previous seasons. I liked that now with great power he is going up against other really powerful people who know what it takes such that he was meeting his match in many ways.


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I am not very interested in the Claire vs. Frank for season 4...


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Have there been any interviews implying that's where they're going in season 4? I don't think that's where they'll go. I think they'll focus on how Frank can manage without his safety net. Claire bailed his ass out of a lot of situations he's gotten himself into with his emotional shortcomings. She's been his rock for 3 seasons. He pounded too hard and their relationship cracked. I really don't believe Claire would actively campaign against him. I think she just needed to leave. She feels overshadowed and under appreciated. I think it will be a how high can I fly by myself story for Claire in season 4. I hope they forgo a reconciliation and instead see if the two powerhouses can conquer whilst divided. 


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Season 4 confirmed. I got the feels she will run against him for president.
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