Issue 116 Review

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Very cool read! Quick, but cool.

The preview did pretty much show us what was going to happen. The Holly twist was a nice surprise! I'm glad she stepped up, even though we haven't heard too much from her, in what seems like forever! When was the last time she was in a scene that wasn't her in the background? When Eugene was hanging out with her and Rosita? I get why she would want to get in the truck, but it seemed odd that she came out of nowhere in this issue and did that. Kirkman didn't really build that up. Whatever, I guess that is a part of war? Haha, it was still pretty awesome! I am glad it wasn't Rick that ended up driving the truck through the fence. I think Rick was right in explaining that Negan wouldn't have killed Rick, because Negan loves to fuck with Rick, but it still would have been a stupid move.

The panel of Gregory being kicked off the balcony made it look like he was falling to his death, but a few pages before we see the balcony from Rick's and his groups point of view and it doesn't seem to high up.
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I know a lot of people here think Adlard's art has been dropping off (I disagree), but I must say it was great seeing some zombies again! The panel that shows the zombies chained to the fence looked awesome!!! We are only 2 issues into this All Out War story arc and they brought in the new guy to help with the art because of the "bi-weekly" issues, but I haven't noticed anything different which is great! I really disklike when comic series change artists a lot, or have a 2-issue arc with a special guest artist. That is why I love Walking Dead, same writer and same artist (for most of it).
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I wonder how is Gregory to survide that.. i mean.. he not only was pushed by Negan but also he will have to deal with all those walkers that got inside the fences

I doubt Holly is going to survive the war... but again.. i really doubt many people will make it.. Negan's revenge will be LE-GEN-DARY
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i dont think negan is on to dwight. it all happened very fast and there is a giant horde rite out front.

cant wait to see what happens to poor holly. if only abe was still around. i miss abe.
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I wonder how is Gregory to survide that.. i mean.. he not only was pushed by Negan but also he will have to deal with all those walkers that got inside the fences

I doubt Holly is going to survive the war... but again.. i really doubt many people will make it.. Negan's revenge will be LE-GEN-DARY


Odd how the balcony railing magically disappeared when Negan kicked Gregory off. Heh.
Since they didn't show him, I'm assuming that he is alive for the time being - I certainly hope he goes out in a gruesome, or at least painful way.
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I wonder how is Gregory to survide that.. i mean.. he not only was pushed by Negan but also he will have to deal with all those walkers that got inside the fences

I doubt Holly is going to survive the war... but again.. i really doubt many people will make it.. Negan's revenge will be LE-GEN-DARY


You didn't even make us wait for it...

I have a strong suspicion that dwight is going to help Holly escape. I mean, it makes absolutely zero sense for Rick to intentionally get caught without a concrete way to get out of that shitty situation. I figure the plan was for dwight to get rick out.
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I would have just shot Negan when he was up on that platform.
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I would have just shot Negan when he was up on that platform.


I kept wondering why nobody did this.
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hopefully rick's forces use their time wisely and hit those outposts hard and fast while negan regroups and takes out that horde.
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also i was expecting a two page spread of a massive herd when negan was goin on about shitting pants, but to no avail which i found strange, really would of made that moment more powerful.
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also i was expecting a two page spread of a massive herd when negan was goin on about shitting pants, but to no avail which i found strange, really would of made that moment more powerful.



You're not alone....Was expecting that as well.
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also i was expecting a two page spread of a massive herd when negan was goin on about shitting pants, but to no avail which i found strange, really would of made that moment more powerful.


As much as I enjoyed the two page zed spread, I would have prefered it from Negan's POV like you mentioned.
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Was an alright issue, felt like more set up though. At least we got some good action.

Looks like Holly screwed up a plan of Rick's, Holly, Holly, Holly...but hey at least she is getting some development! Her, Nicholas, Heath and Denise are my favourite Alexandrians.

I'm curious to see how the rest of AOW plays out, this volume should be 18 issues, given everything put on to the covers, it seems like Kirkman is trying to squeeze a lot of stuff into 12 issues.
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I was pleased with this issue. The inking is fantastic!! Z's looked groovy. I knew the Holly pre release panel was a troll. OF course this leaves me wanting. the next two issues will be out every two weeks! I'm totally down with that. Do you think Image is floating this to test the market for another comic-spin off? Hmmm I am wondering...
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I'm interested to see what happens with Dwight, I think he will try to help holly, but he doesn't want to blow his cover.
I really hope we get to see Nick on a future cover!!
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I'm interested to see what happens with Dwight, I think he will try to help holly, but he doesn't want to blow his cover.
I really hope we get to see Nick on a future cover!!


Nicholas doesn't deserve a cover. I'd be cool with one featuring his 80s porn stache, though. :D
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Nicholas doesn't deserve a cover. I'd be cool with one featuring his 80s porn stache, though. :D


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Good thing I wore my shitting pants today.......
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That was so short!

Anyway, glad they kept Holly alive because I think All Out War will not only be a huge climax but development for all of these underdeveloped characters and I think Holly has a lot of potential.

Glad the next one is coming in two weeks but I'm wondering if it would've been better to release one forty page issue a month

Did Dwight betray the group? I must've missed that.


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Thanks!

Edit: A lot of these questions seem to be asked around the forum a lot, like the Random Mohawk Guy (how could that guy not remember Barbara?).

Kind of sad that Buttons will suffer the same fate as the Russian and never be seen again :(

And I'm about 30% sure ButtonstheHorse asked the question about the guy with his tongue sticking out, 60% sure PorkTornado asked the first question with the guns, and 99.99999999999999999999999999999% sure that FatherGabriel wrote the question about Father Gabriel because he's his only fan in history. It's even clear that Sean and Kirkman don't give a crap about him. In two weeks, we'll see farswell ask a question about Olivia.
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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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Thanks!

Edit: A lot of these questions seem to be asked around the forum a lot, like the Random Mohawk Guy (how could that guy not remember Barbara?).

Kind of sad that Buttons will suffer the same fate as the Russian and never be seen again :(

And I'm about 30% sure ButtonstheHorse asked the question about the guy with his tongue sticking out, 60% sure PorkTornado asked the first question with the guns, and 99.99999999999999999999999999999% sure that FatherGabriel wrote the question about Father Gabriel because he's his only fan in history. It's even clear that Sean and Kirkman don't give a crap about him. In two weeks, we'll see farswell ask a question about Olivia.


I was just coming in here to post that same thing about member FatherGabriel. :P

I do think it is a good time to write in, if we are so inclined. Lots more opportunity to make it in.
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Great Issue, I loved watching Rick's plan come to fruition. I don't think he planned to take the fence down in such a clumsy fashion (at least put on your seatbelt, Holly...) or get captured by the saviors.....but I agree with his logic - Negan has said on many occasions that he refuses to kill Rick. I like what Holly did, I think that besides wanting to avenge Abe - she knows that Rick is essential to winning the war and probably agrees with Jesus that he is right man to lead their community. My only worry is that now she is a prisoner of Negan - and she possesses very sensitive information including Eugene's ammo production (as well as his crush on Rosita) and will most likely give Negan an advantage.
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And I'm about 30% sure ButtonstheHorse asked the question about the guy with his tongue sticking out, 60% sure PorkTornado asked the first question with the guns, and 99.99999999999999999999999999999% sure that FatherGabriel wrote the question about Father Gabriel because he's his only fan in history. It's even clear that Sean and Kirkman don't give a crap about him. In two weeks, we'll see farswell ask a question about Olivia.


Amen. Especially that part about father Gabriel lol
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It was a really, really quick read. I actually feel let down, it was so short. The preview pretty much told the whole story as it was. The only part they left out was Holly's choice to ram the fence in Rick's place. The non-Negan quote of the comic goes to Dwight. "...yeah, I'll get right on that."

The only saving grace is that 117 comes out in two weeks.

Yeah, incredibly quick read. It was a solid issue though. And I'm excited that the comics are coming out bi monthly now too. My only problem is that Rick and co's plan was pretty good but it should have been used as only one element of their plan to give them the upper hand with some kind of different plan of attack to follow immediately after. Zombies can be handled; zombies + people = a fuckton of dead Saviors. Also is Gregory dead now? I don't think Negan killed him when he kicked him off... whatever they were standing on, but the zombies probably did. Also, why would anyone even listen to Greg's dumb ass? When he said what he said all the Hilltop people should have just told him to go fuck himself... it don't really buy that they would genuinely leave, especially knowing that he would almost definitely be dead when their plan went into action.
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Good read. I agree very quick since we got like an 8 page preview.
So I am confident now where Holly's heart is and she is not a rat or spy. I knew when I saw the preview that she was trying to be a hero, Not betraying Rick's group.
It was Kirkman trolling us trying to make Holly seem shady back when she was with Abe, and after Michonne caught her prowling around after dark. I think that set the stage perfectly for Holly to become people's favorite female character. Eventually, if she doesn't die first that is. I wonder when/if Rosita will get more development?
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They should change the name of this arc to "All Out Snore".
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