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What was your opinion of Episode 2 - Infected?

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Yes, many times they have shown that that is walker behavior, most specifically was back in S2, when the walkers followed the noise of the helicopter and then converged onto the farm. In last weeks epi, they played music at the former military outpost to draw the walkers out of the fenced in area.


I know they gave us the hints, but does the group know? Because if they know that they travel in a herd and are attracted to large sounds, they should've prepared a bit more for a situation like what happened.
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I really enjoyed that. It would be very dramatic if Sasha is the one who burned Karen. I think the older girl Carol adopted may become the equivalent to comic Sophia and be Carl's zombie apocalypse partner..


I think you might be right but to be honest I like the little sister Mika more than Lizzie. I think the actress that plays Mika is better as well. I'm expecting Lizzie to stick around for awhile and am hoping Mika does as well.
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Grade: B+ (Very Good)
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I will make no reference to the comic in this post so you can read without fear of being spoiled

Infected was an interesting episode to say the least. To the people who didn’t understand why others (including myself) rated the premiere poorly, it wasn’t because “There wasn’t enough zombies” or not understanding the Rick and Clara scenes (what wasn’t there to understand?), it was the fact that the episode just kind of…existed. It wasn’t significant and everybody would’ve called it filler if it were later in the season. It just felt like a lot of, “Been there, done that” territory and gave us a check-in with the characters we haven’t seen for 7 and a half months

Infected on the other hand, was a different kind of episode. It moved with much more confidence than its predecessor and had some interesting new stuff brewing that kind of gave a foreign sense of optimism that this show hasn’t given me for a while. This episode still had quite a few flaws but it racketed up the tension and things are looking up for the rest of this season. Notably, it’s one of the few episodes of the Walking Dead ever that didn’t have any pointless scenes

So, I’ll just take this scene by scene

There were some things that were clearly choreographed. When Carl asked if he could have his gun back, it was clear that there was going to be a point when he’d need it and wouldn’t have it. I was also never nervous when any of the main characters like Michonne were in danger because they clearly weren’t going to die (and they make walkers look really easy to fend off if all you have to do is extend your arms and keep it out of biting distance) but the scene later with the walkers attacking the cellblock was very well done. The trailer for Season 4 and the scene in the supply store made it look like this season would be more like a horror movie but the cell block used a good set and had some well shot action. Yeah, it was obvious only the unnamed characters would die but it was kind of just fun to watch and I usually get bored with the zombie killing on this show

It did bother me however how the only reason this came about is because people are too stupid to lock their doors. Yes, there aren’t many sets of keys but cell doors have latches. People can just lock them and walkers are never smart enough to open them. I don’t want to hear the “complacency” argument either. Complacency can cause these people to do some things like forgot a guard patrol every now and then. Not forgetting to lock a door or not scream while your throat is getting torn out. I always lock my door and I’m not even stuck in a zombie apocalypse. It’s like somebody said last week. Just because you’ve never been in a car accident doesn’t mean you never buckle your seatbelt. And by the end of the episode, the little girls are STILL watching walkers build up on the fence. KILL THE WALKERS BEFORE THEY BUILD UP! 24 HOUR PATROLS! 6 GROUPS THAT SHIFT EVERY 4 HOURS!

The scene with Carol and the father is the kind of emotional dilemmas that I’d rather see than “Rick and Irish Girl Trek Through the Woods.” I wasn’t even bothered by Carol giving the girl the knife because I kind of saw it as her trying to protect the girl so she couldn’t die the same way Sophia did. The scene was nearly ruined, though, because of the little girls acting. The older girl was only 90% atrocious I guess on a child actresses’ standards but the little one had the biggest anti-emmy performance I’ve ever seen, only rivaled by Harrison Morgan himself.

Whatever. I’m done complaining about child actors and I won’t hold it against the episode because I’m used to it in this

But this whole Carol trying to protect the girl plot line...I don't know. I'm kind of sick of the Walking Dead using the "Holding onto what makes us human gets us killed" story and I hope it gets dropped

I know I complain about time jumps a lot and again, I’m not going to hold it against the episode because I promised I’d only hold it against the premiere, but they just form relationships during it and expect us to accept it. I can accept it, but because of the time jump, I don’t have to care about it. Why am I supposed to care that Cutty’s girlfriend, Woodbury Extra #5, might be dying? The only reason I’m supposed to believe they care about each other is because…the writers told us they do. It was Michonne and Andrea all over again

It liked the touch of Rick hesitating before stabbing the walkers. You usually don’t get something like that from this show. Shouldn’t we have gotten something like that from Cutty, though, considering what he said last episode?

Also, Rick had to kill some pigs to lure the walkers away from the fence. This is undoubtedly going to get unnecessary PETA protest but I feel like this could’ve been done better. This doesn’t feel like Rick being forced to make the decision that nobody else could, the way he killed Sophia for example. Rick could’ve easily drove the truck and Daryl could’ve killed the pigs. I did feel more bad for the pigs than anybody who died at the prison, though. Plus, Andrew Lincoln was pretty great in that scene and that splatter of blood was a nice touch. Character moments like this feel like what we should’ve gotten from Season 2-3 so I appreciate it. Season 4 feels like a reboot of the entire show in many ways

The ending was just very “whatever” to me. I want to feel bad that Tyreese’s girlfriend died but who the hell is she? Did anybody care about her? I sure didn’t. Am I supposed to care that Tyreese feels bad? How am I even supposed to know how much he cared about her?

There was not a lot of humor this week, and that was one of the few things I complimented the Walking Dead on last week. Like the AV Club mentioned, this show almost never has humor. A joke can be dropped here and there, but it feels inappropriate when it is, like somebody whistling at a wake

Overall, it was a much more satisfying hour than last week

Stray Observations (Things that don’t affect the grade/notes):

-Adaptation Choice I Liked: Rick and company have to prevent the fences from falling over making and the survivors tactics to prevent it a lot more riveting than
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-Adaptation Choice I Didn’t Like: Is it okay to spoil something in the comic if it will never happen in the show at this point? I’ll put it in tags just in case
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-Cutty is a very disappointing comic addition into this show. He's one of my favorite characters in the comics and he was undoubtedly A-List and now he’s just a background character that’s just…there

-That zombie’s stomach falling off the moment he rolled off the bed was kind of awesomely gross

-Carl isn’t wearing that hat he’s clearly too old for anymore!

-I laughed at the scene where Beth picked up the crying baby that clearly wasn’t a crying baby

-I love Lawrence Gillard Jr. but him as D’Angelo really isn’t doing it for me. I don’t know if it’s his lines or what but he doesn’t seem to be bringing it as him and he seems kind of useless

-A lot of supply wasting in this episode. Maggie shoots an impaled walker that wasn’t going to hurt anybody and Rick wastes a can of gasoline for burning something that didn’t need to be burnt

-D'Angelo is probably the traitor unless they make it another Nikki/Pablo-esque character that nobody cares about
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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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*starts slow clap*

Tonight's episode was a breath of fresh air. Rick finally got his balls back.

After Season 3 and then the Season 4 premiere I had really begun to believe that the show was unsalvageable. For the first time in a long time the show has actually gained an element of suspense. It'll be interesting to see how the virus / "body burner" storylines play out. As will seeing how the Governor gets re-injected back into the storyline and how Abe/Euge/Rosita play into it. The psychological element also feels more faithful to the comic as well now.
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Good episode. It felt pretty tense all the way.
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Putting out fire with gasoline.

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I don't think Rick was cutting the pigs to make the blood attract the walkers. I think he was crippling them so they couldn't run away.
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Pretty much loved it. I love Dr. type characters in stories like these because they add some insight to what is happening, Carol found a new Sophia and I wouldn't be surprised if the two girls played out like the twins in the comic. Rick sacrificing the last of their food, trying to keep the fence secured. When he handed back Carl his gun and doned his belt/revolver i was like "Ok, Officer Friendly is back in business."

My favorite part of this episode was Daryl's comment to Rick, "When the shit hits the fan, things start going south. You're just gonna be standing there with a shovel." I butchered it, but it totally resonated with Rick.
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can we talk about how awesome Carol is this season? I've never been a big Carol fan, if anything I've been the opposite. but shes really stepped it up this season. Shes probably been my favorite character in both of these first two episodes.
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I don't think Rick was cutting the pigs to make the blood attract the walkers. I think he was crippling them so they couldn't run away.


True. But I wish he would have just killed them so they wouldn't have suffered.
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can we talk about how awesome Carol is this season? I've never been a big Carol fan, if anything I've been the opposite. but shes really stepped it up this season. Shes probably been my favorite character in both of these first two episodes.


I agree she has stepped up. The part where she has to kill the father....it was taking forever...I was just waiting for him to come back and bite her I was like....STAB HIS FACE ALREADY!!...I was nervous for a moment.
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I agree she has stepped up. The part where she has to kill the father....it was taking forever...I was just waiting for him to come back and bite her I was like....STAB HIS FACE ALREADY!!...I was nervous for a moment.


Haha! I know! I love that feeling. :lol:
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I agree she has stepped up. The part where she has to kill the father....it was taking forever...I was just waiting for him to come back and bite her I was like....STAB HIS FACE ALREADY!!...I was nervous for a moment.


haha right when she saw that bite on his neck, I had a split second where I thought she was just going to stab him. Which would have been awesome... but I understand why it didn't happen
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Crazy coincidence. I just started an episode of Six Feet Under and at the beginning Brenda says, "If you lose a spouse, you're a widow. If you lose a parent, you're an orphan. There's no word to describe a parent losing a child. I guess that's just too f***ing awful to have a name."

Wow...
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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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Ok episode, I just hate how they keep killing off characters that had little to no character development. I haven't felt sad for anyone's death so far this season even though like 10 people died (maybe more). I know the season just started but they need to start giving us a reason to care about people's deaths.

-The doctor character seems interesting, I hope we get to learn more about him before they kill him off.

-I don't think the rats are a reference to the governor just yet, I don't think we'll see anything about him until the 2nd half of the season

-Glad to see Rick back (again)

-The part with Judith was sad, I had a feeling something like this would happen.
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Ok episode, I just hate how they keep killing off characters that had little to no character development. I haven't felt sad for anyone's death so far this season even though like 10 people died (maybe more). I know the season just started but they need to start giving us a reason to care about people's deaths.

-The doctor character seems interesting, I hope we get to learn more about him before they kill him off.

-I don't think the rats are a reference to the governor just yet, I don't think we'll see anything about him until the 2nd half of the season

-Glad to see Rick back (again)

-The part with Judith was sad, I had a feeling something like this would happen.


I didn't know Ryan (I think that is what Carol called him), but I was definitely moved by his whole death scene.
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am I the only one who sees those two little girls playing out the whole Billy/Ben story line from the comics? because lets be honest that older one be CRAY


Exactly what I'm thinking...but I'm thinking it's the younger looking girl. Something is off about her. Her father has to be put down and while the older daughter is a wreck, she's generally apathetic after a few moments. At first she was upset obviously, but then it's like she flipped a switch and all that emotion was drawn out of her. Girl gives me the creeps. I can picture her just standing at the foot of someone's bed in the middle of the night...

The older one is a mess, too, though. She's freaking crying over her father AND a dead walker. Carol was right there, maybe she should have set her straight but Carl already tried that and it didn't do a thing. Now that I think about it, I can totally see Lizzie playing out that storyline and saying 'it's okay, he'll/she'll come back' because of how jaded she is.

A few things bothered me in this episode:

For a dead guy with no conscious thought process, Walker Patrick sure did pick the perfect spot to bite his victim. Season two we see a walker aim for Daryl's boot because, presumably, it was closest and the walker is too dumb to know foot from face, but this time it really looked like he looked his victim over before biting. I suppose, though, it could be argued that the man was snoring and he was following the rumbling noise.. But still.

How quickly they identified Patrick. It seemed like they just looked at him right after he was shot and knew that he had no bites. With that much blood on him there is no way they could make that call without a thorough search.

That no one is drawing a line with that little girl's misconception about walkers. Her sister can see it, but the adults are completely ignoring how skewed her perception is.

That Rick used the pig as bait and only drove a handful of feet away from the fence to disperse them. Come on, Rick, really? I get that you suspect the pigs are sick so losing them is no great loss, but if that is the thought process, why in the name of all that is good would you deliberately expose yourself to their blood? Walkers don't need to see the blood to attack the pig, just setting it down would do the trick. Secondly, if you are going to needlessly feed the pigs to the walkers rather than simply making noise and driving off, why didn't you drive further away from the fence line so they won't just come back in twenty minutes when the meal is done? Stupid.

The meaningless character deaths of people we don't know but should care about because of their interactions with other characters we barely know.

Burying/burning bodies infected with an unknown pathogen on prison property. Way to spread it, guys.


Also, who else noticed that Judith is coughing? That is definitely an, 'I feel sick' cry.


Man that scene with Rick and the pigs really got me. I had to turn away each time he set one down for the walkers. But I agree with you that to do it so close to the fence is silly. You may as well lead them out a little further and start planning to take them out or something. Even if things went south, it's better than the walkers bringing down the fence and going after everyone when they're unprepared.

I noticed Judith was fine while she was playing and then all of a sudden she starts doing that piercing cry. I don't know much about babies but I've never heard one crying like that unless it was ill or in pain. It just wasn't normal...even Michonne commented on it. And when she started coughing...uhoh. I don't think baby Judy is going to do so well in the prison for much longer.

Also, I really like seeing this side of Michonne. I've liked her character since she was introduced but now she's actually opening up a bit more so we can get to like her for more than just being a badass with a katana. Her refusing to hold Judy and then crying while cradling her makes me think that maybe she lost a child either pre-ZA or shortly after. Either way, I really like the development between Michonne and Carl, and Rick.
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I am dying to know more of Michonne's backstory. Her reaction to Judith seemed to be more than just letting her guard down and caring for someone. Huge props to Danai, she is a wonderful actress. I am loving Michonne more each episode.
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I am dying to know more of Michonne's backstory. Her reaction to Judith seemed to be more than just letting her guard down and caring for someone. Huge props to Danai, she is a wonderful actress. I am loving Michonne more each episode.

I assumed a child of hers died during the apocalypse or she had a miscarriage or something before the apocalypse. Maybe she's just infertile but always wanted a kid?
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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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I assumed a child of hers died during the apocalypse or she had a miscarriage or something before the apocalypse. Maybe she's just infertile but always wanted a kid?


I think she definitely lost a baby/child.

Loved the scene - very well done. Props to Danai for getting me all choked up.
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Exactly what I'm thinking...but I'm thinking it's the younger looking girl. Something is off about her. Her father has to be put down and while the older daughter is a wreck, she's generally apathetic after a few moments. At first she was upset obviously, but then it's like she flipped a switch and all that emotion was drawn out of her. Girl gives me the creeps. I can picture her just standing at the foot of someone's bed in the middle of the night...

The older one is a mess, too, though. She's freaking crying over her father AND a dead walker. Carol was right there, maybe she should have set her straight but Carl already tried that and it didn't do a thing. Now that I think about it, I can totally see Lizzie playing out that storyline and saying 'it's okay, he'll/she'll come back' because of how jaded she is.



Man that scene with Rick and the pigs really got me. I had to turn away each time he set one down for the walkers. But I agree with you that to do it so close to the fence is silly. You may as well lead them out a little further and start planning to take them out or something. Even if things went south, it's better than the walkers bringing down the fence and going after everyone when they're unprepared.

I noticed Judith was fine while she was playing and then all of a sudden she starts doing that piercing cry. I don't know much about babies but I've never heard one crying like that unless it was ill or in pain. It just wasn't normal...even Michonne commented on it. And when she started coughing...uhoh. I don't think baby Judy is going to do so well in the prison for much longer.

Also, I really like seeing this side of Michonne. I've liked her character since she was introduced but now she's actually opening up a bit more so we can get to like her for more than just being a badass with a katana. Her refusing to hold Judy and then crying while cradling her makes me think that maybe she lost a child either pre-ZA or shortly after. Either way, I really like the development between Michonne and Carl, and Rick.


I think Judith's crying was just to show Michonne's reaction to her. It seemed to me that the crying baby triggered a memory for Michonne.
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I think Judith's crying was just to show Michonne's reaction to her. It seemed to me that the crying baby triggered a memory for Michonne.


I think it might have been there for both reasons. Definitely to show Michonne's reaction to her, but to also make the viewers worry that Judith might be sick.
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I think it might have been there for both reasons. Definitely to show Michonne's reaction to her, but to also make the viewers worry that Judith might be sick.

Judith getting sick and dying/turning would be a very nihilistic approach from this show. I'm not completely against the idea but I'm worried about the aftermath of it because I don't want to see Rick snap again
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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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Crazy coincidence. I just started an episode of Six Feet Under and at the beginning Brenda says, "If you lose a spouse, you're a widow. If you lose a parent, you're an orphan. There's no word to describe a parent losing a child. I guess that's just too f***ing awful to have a name."

Wow...


You're watching Six Feet Under! Yay!!
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Great episode. Im glad Rick is finally back in action.
Feeding bacon to the walkers, that was a good call. Joke's on you walkers, this bacon is spoiled!

I didn't notice until I've read the comments here that Judith was coughing. Do you guys think she is sick too? I mean, she's a baby, you look away for 10 seconds and a baby will get sick and drop dead, so it's possible she got infected.

I wonder who did that to Karen and David. Not too many people knew they were sick, and where they were being quarentined. Maybe it was someone from the council? It could also have been one of the doctors, although I think they would have known better than to burn the bodies.
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Judith getting sick and dying/turning would be a very nihilistic approach from this show. I'm not completely against the idea but I'm worried about the aftermath of it because I don't want to see Rick snap again


I'm with you there. I was so thankful to see him with his gun belt back on, and his head on straight.

(Even after tonight's episode, I still don't think it was necessary to have him not wearing a gun.)
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