#1
24 February 2013 - 08:10 AM
My idea is to use the Marine Corps' humvees, 7 ton trucks, and fuel trucks to create a convoy of vehicles. All these vehicles are very durable as they are designed to go into battle, off road capable, and relatively fuel efficient.
The first vehicle is the Humvee. This is a great scouting and lead vehicle. The are one of the best off road vehicles the Marine Corps has to offer, and theyre great for combat situations. They have an automatic transmission, 4WD, and no key is needed to start them. Its just a switch. I was able to drive one of them a few days ago and they are great. They have 4 seats, lots of storage space in the back, and a gun turret on the roof. There are all sorts of machine guns and various other weapons on the turret, but the most common is a 50 caliber machine gun. Thats a great weapon, simple to maintain and load, and very reliable. A problem with this vehicle and all other Marine Corps vehicles is that they all run on JP8, which is a high grade diesel fuel, that only the marine corps uses. Finding and storing JP8 is a major problem, which I will talk about later.
The second vehicle in my convoy is the marine corps' 7 ton truck. It has limited off road capability with 6 wheel drive but because of its size and weight is limited on where it can go. It is a tough vehicle, and is very powerful. It has a semi manual transmission, where it has buttons to select gears and no clutch. There is a gun turret on top, which like the humvee, usually has a 50 cal on top. In the back there is tons of space to put things, and a small group could live in the back of one. It also runs on JP8, and probably isnt very fuel efficient.
The 3rd vehicle in my convoy is the Marine Corps' fuel truck. This is a 7 ton truck with a large fuel tank on the back. I couldnt find the exact number, but they hold probably somewhere around 1000 to 2000 gallons of fuel. This would be the "gas station" for my convoy. Depending on how many vehicles and drivers are in a convoy, there could be just one or multiple fuel trucks. Almost every vehicle and aircraft in the marine corps runs on JP8, so there's hundreds of thousands of gallons of the stuff at every marine corps base around the country. Not very many ordinary people would be able to get a marine corps vehicle because of the marine corps small size, so there probably wouldnt be a high demand for JP8.
I live right next to Camp Pendleton, California, which is the largest military base on the west coast, and can get onto base. There are humvees and trucks scattered everywhere across base, and in a post apocalyptic situation it may not be too hard to acquire a few vehicles and a few thousand gallons of fuel. There would also be large amounts of MRE's on base, so thats food taken care of. The same goes for ammunition. I dont know about water yet. All these vehicles have radios in them for communication between vehicles. There is all sorts of body armor and small guns around base, and with some searching, I could find some.
So that is my convoy idea. 3 base vehicles, a light lead vehicle, a heavy truck for transport and living in, and a fuel truck to provide fuel to all these vehicles. I have a plan for food, ammunition, fuel, shelter, and defense. All I need now is a plan for water and medicine. If you think this isnt going to work, or have something to add, please tell me.
#2
24 February 2013 - 12:50 PM
A problem with this vehicle and all other Marine Corps vehicles is that they all run on JP8, which is a high grade diesel fuel, that only the marine corps uses.
The Humvee has a turbo diesel engine. The engine runs on Diesel, Kerosine, JP8, and can run on non-conventional fuels such as HHO (HomeHeatingOil), Motor oil (new or used), or Vegetable/Cooking oil (new or used).
JP8 is just a Kerosine based jetfuel.
#3
24 February 2013 - 05:55 PM
#4
27 February 2013 - 10:47 PM
#5
09 March 2013 - 03:04 AM
What IS the best possible civilian vehicle to have in a ZA? Preferably seating 3 to 5 people at most.
I'd also like to know second and third best options since finding the best right off means you're a really lucky son of a gun. (basically inferior vehicles but would still work fairly well in this situation)
#6
11 March 2013 - 05:19 PM
#7
13 March 2013 - 01:20 PM
#8
16 March 2013 - 04:44 AM
I would look for a Brinks-type armoured car. Bullet-proof and nearly impenetrable. Shooting ports all around. Good storage for supplies and a nice secure place to get some sleep in the middle of the ZA. Down side is, no off-road capability.
http://www.roamersan...little-sumptin/
my fiction story.....that is the main transport.
#9
16 March 2013 - 04:58 AM
Hello, I recently had an idea for a survival convoy. My idea has the ability to sustain a relatively large group (possibly 10-50 people) for a good amount of time.
My idea is to use the Marine Corps' humvees, 7 ton trucks, and fuel trucks to create a convoy of vehicles. All these vehicles are very durable as they are designed to go into battle, off road capable, and relatively fuel efficient.
The first vehicle is the Humvee. This is a great scouting and lead vehicle. The are one of the best off road vehicles the Marine Corps has to offer, and theyre great for combat situations. They have an automatic transmission, 4WD, and no key is needed to start them. Its just a switch. I was able to drive one of them a few days ago and they are great. They have 4 seats, lots of storage space in the back, and a gun turret on the roof. There are all sorts of machine guns and various other weapons on the turret, but the most common is a 50 caliber machine gun. Thats a great weapon, simple to maintain and load, and very reliable. A problem with this vehicle and all other Marine Corps vehicles is that they all run on JP8, which is a high grade diesel fuel, that only the marine corps uses. Finding and storing JP8 is a major problem, which I will talk about later.
The second vehicle in my convoy is the marine corps' 7 ton truck. It has limited off road capability with 6 wheel drive but because of its size and weight is limited on where it can go. It is a tough vehicle, and is very powerful. It has a semi manual transmission, where it has buttons to select gears and no clutch. There is a gun turret on top, which like the humvee, usually has a 50 cal on top. In the back there is tons of space to put things, and a small group could live in the back of one. It also runs on JP8, and probably isnt very fuel efficient.
The 3rd vehicle in my convoy is the Marine Corps' fuel truck. This is a 7 ton truck with a large fuel tank on the back. I couldnt find the exact number, but they hold probably somewhere around 1000 to 2000 gallons of fuel. This would be the "gas station" for my convoy. Depending on how many vehicles and drivers are in a convoy, there could be just one or multiple fuel trucks. Almost every vehicle and aircraft in the marine corps runs on JP8, so there's hundreds of thousands of gallons of the stuff at every marine corps base around the country. Not very many ordinary people would be able to get a marine corps vehicle because of the marine corps small size, so there probably wouldnt be a high demand for JP8.
I live right next to Camp Pendleton, California, which is the largest military base on the west coast, and can get onto base. There are humvees and trucks scattered everywhere across base, and in a post apocalyptic situation it may not be too hard to acquire a few vehicles and a few thousand gallons of fuel. There would also be large amounts of MRE's on base, so thats food taken care of. The same goes for ammunition. I dont know about water yet. All these vehicles have radios in them for communication between vehicles. There is all sorts of body armor and small guns around base, and with some searching, I could find some.
So that is my convoy idea. 3 base vehicles, a light lead vehicle, a heavy truck for transport and living in, and a fuel truck to provide fuel to all these vehicles. I have a plan for food, ammunition, fuel, shelter, and defense. All I need now is a plan for water and medicine. If you think this isnt going to work, or have something to add, please tell me.
Let me stop you right there.
First off....last time I was in the Marines....Humvees did not use any JP8 or 5.....JP itself stands for Jet Propellant.
From Wiki
It was specified in 1990 by the U.S. government as a replacement for government diesel fueled vehicles.
The U.S. Air Force replaced JP-4 with JP-8 completely by the fall of 1996, to use a less flammable, less hazardous fuel for better safety and combat survivability.
The U.S. Navy uses a similar formula, JP-5. JP-5 has an even higher flash point of > 60 °C (140 °F), but also a higher cost.
Outside of powering aircraft, JP-8 is used as a fuel for heaters, stoves,[1] tanks,[2] by the U.S. military as a replacement for diesel fuel in the engines of nearly all tactical ground vehicles and electrical generators, and as a coolant in engines and some other aircraft components. The use of a single fuel greatly simplifies logistics.
Now as of yet...I have not heard this being used in Humvees....as Diesel is the more easy to get access to than the latter...especially in a situation. Which brings me to my second point....you trying to get on base....much less trying to boost vehicles....in said situation.. base is on full alert....and if there isnt anyone there...dollars to donuts the majority of vehicles have already been 'repurposed' and if there is anything left is because it wasn't needed...broken....or no resources to use for it. And if there is staff on there? No way you are getting it. And unless they changed stuff since I been in...they DO lock up the vehicles....so you would need bolt cutters...and a crew.
Another factor...most of the vehicles you want might be available....6 bys and humvees...maybe cucvees if they are still in use. But fuel tankers? Those are going to be in another area...and some of those areas are NOT next to each other either. So unless you are driving vehicles IN to get more vehicles out....then you have an even BIGGER crew that is more noticeable.
I am not trying to put down your idea....I am just looking at it from all angles....I went to School of Infantry at San Onofre....the next camp area down the street was....if I remember...20 minute drive?
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