When To Expect Daryl Dixon To Die.... ( Includes Comic Spoilers )

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Soooo...we've agreed that whether Daryl is killed off or survives the entire show, it won't be because they are pandering to the audience? Excellent! In that case I vote that he survives, as worthless as my vote is.


I think Daryl will survive to the end, or at least close to the end. I don't think that AMC would let him be killed off. I think there must be some legal stuff that allows AMC to use him for marketing purposes in ways that they can't with the comic book characters.

Couldn't help but notice the AMC logo on that "survival instinct" video game (a logo that was not on the other "Walking Dead" game). "Survival Instinct" is of course the video game with Daryl Dixon. And it was Daryl's character who appeared in that super bowl commercial- none of the comic characters appeared in it.

Yeah, Daryl's character is popular, but the whole show is popular. They could have done a commercial with Daryl, Michonne, and at least one other character, but Daryl was the only one. I'm guessing that no other characters appeared in it because Kirkman probably wouldn't like the idea of his characters appearing in a commercial.

My impression is that the network has greater flexibility with Daryl when it comes to marketing purposes. They can put him in crappy video games and cheesy commercials without asking for Kirkman's permission.


Got no proof of this and if someone can correct me, feel free. Just a theory I have.
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I think Daryl will survive to the end, or at least close to the end. I don't think that AMC would let him be killed off. I think there must be some legal stuff that allows AMC to use him for marketing purposes in ways that they can't with the comic book characters.

Couldn't help but notice the AMC logo on that "survival instinct" video game (a logo that was not on the other "Walking Dead" game). "Survival Instinct" is of course the video game with Daryl Dixon. And it was Daryl's character who appeared in that super bowl commercial- none of the comic characters appeared in it.

Yeah, Daryl's character is popular, but the whole show is popular. They could have done a commercial with Daryl, Michonne, and at least one other character, but Daryl was the only one. I'm guessing that no other characters appeared in it because Kirkman probably wouldn't like the idea of his characters appearing in a commercial.

My impression is that the network has greater flexibility with Daryl when it comes to marketing purposes. They can put him in crappy video games and cheesy commercials without asking for Kirkman's permission.


Got no proof of this and if someone can correct me, feel free. Just a theory I have.


I suspect it may have more to do with money than flexibility. Since Daryl, and Merle for that matter, were created as part of the show which AMC owns, AMC may have sole rights to the revenue generated from them. However, they may have to pay Kirkman royalties to use any of the comic characters and AMC has already shown themselves to be a greedy lot.
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Couldn't help but notice the AMC logo on that "survival instinct" video game (a logo that was not on the other "Walking Dead" game). "Survival Instinct" is of course the video game with Daryl Dixon. And it was Daryl's character who appeared in that super bowl commercial- none of the comic characters appeared in it.

Yeah, Daryl's character is popular, but the whole show is popular. They could have done a commercial with Daryl, Michonne, and at least one other character, but Daryl was the only one. I'm guessing that no other characters appeared in it because Kirkman probably wouldn't like the idea of his characters appearing in a commercial.

My impression is that the network has greater flexibility with Daryl when it comes to marketing purposes. They can put him in crappy video games and cheesy commercials without asking for Kirkman's permission.


That does make sense. Like with the Walking Dead game (Telltale's), I remember Kirkman saying how he was very hesitant to do a Walking Dead game as he wasn't sure anyone could do it justice, but went for it after Telltale laid out the gameplay/story to him and it was so good. With that in mind, I don't think Kirkman would approve Survival Instinct, but it's probably not his call. And since no comic characters appeared in the game, they got be without needing to use his characters and only paid royalties for the WD name.

So it does seem like AMC owns the character, and killing him off would probably require their approval. They care more about ratings and revenue than anything else, so they would never want to get rid of their most popular character. If Daryl dies, I see it happening towards the end of the series, or if the show sees a massive decline in viewership.
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I suspect it may have more to do with money than flexibility. Since Daryl, and Merle for that matter, were created as part of the show which AMC owns, AMC may have sole rights to the revenue generated from them. However, they may have to pay Kirkman royalties to use any of the comic characters and AMC has already shown themselves to be a greedy lot.


That's kinda what I was getting at. Owning the rights to Daryl's character means they could use him in gimmicky type stuff (like commercials and hastily made FPS video games) to make a quick buck. In other words, greed.

That does make sense. Like with the Walking Dead game (Telltale's), I remember Kirkman saying how he was very hesitant to do a Walking Dead game as he wasn't sure anyone could do it justice, but went for it after Telltale laid out the gameplay/story to him and it was so good. With that in mind, I don't think Kirkman would approve Survival Instinct, but it's probably not his call. And since no comic characters appeared in the game, they got be without needing to use his characters and only paid royalties for the WD name.

So it does seem like AMC owns the character, and killing him off would probably require their approval. They care more about ratings and revenue than anything else, so they would never want to get rid of their most popular character. If Daryl dies, I see it happening towards the end of the series, or if the show sees a massive decline in viewership.


Right. Kirkman even said that Survival Instinct was made without his involvement.

Daryl's cool, but at this point in the story I could take him or leave him.

In season two I didn't wanna see him die because he was the only character I really liked. I hated Shane for being such a prick and didn't like Rick because he put up with it.

There's other characters that have emerged going into season four that have loads of potential.

They gave to role of Tyreese to someone who knows how to act (as opposed to some random muscle head), so I wanna see more Tyreese.
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I don't think that answers my question.

Why can't you have more than one "badass" in a group? You obviously have Rick, Daryl, Tyreese, and Glenn (who's drastically starting to toughen up).

I think it's hilarious that you say glenn but don't mention michionie at all
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The governer should behead daryl with michionne' s katana a real honorable death
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I think it's hilarious that you say glenn but don't mention michionie at all


Maybe it's because I don't feel the need to name every single character on the show just to press my main point of why a group can have multiple "badasses."

I am really starting to dislike that word and feel the characters and actors use that phrase way too much.
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Maybe it's because I don't feel the need to name every single character on the show just to press my main point of why a group can have multiple "badasses."

I am really starting to dislike that word and feel the characters and actors use that phrase way too much.


Well, at this stage of the story, I think it makes total sense for the group to have multiple battle-hardened individuals who are skilled in combat against walkers and humans (notice how I artfully dodged the "b-word." )

It makes total sense that nearly everyone left alive on planet earth would be battle-hardened at this point, as the world is full of zombies and marauders.
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Right and that's what I was saying originally. I was addressing someone else's post who didn't think it was correct for a group to have multiple fighters.
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I would like to see Daryl getting Tyreese'd, but, at the same time, I would like to see the remnants of Atlanta's original group not getting killed for a while. In my opinion, they're dying too fast
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Right and that's what I was saying originally. I was addressing someone else's post who didn't think it was correct for a group to have multiple fighters.

I understand and agree with what you said its just the fact that when you heard "badass" you thought glenn that I was pointing out
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I think they should look at this as not having to follow the comics since a whole lot of people don't read and never will read the comics
I also think that they will have to come up with someone as cool as Daryl is and that is going to be a tough act since he started and stayed rough and dirty and so closed to opening and showing himself There is just so much more to explore with the daryl character
We just cannot be left with the WB gang........some originals have to stay and Rick and Carl are just not enough.
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I don't want any more Atlanta deaths, but Daryl feels invincible. I watched Chupacabra yetseray - he falls down a banking, gets an arro through his side, falls down the bank again with the arrow inside him still, blacks out, has a walker gnawing at his shoe, gets shot in th side of the head by Andrea. He feels too comic book for my liking and too safe tbh.
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much as i love daryl he is becoming a little "steriotype" to me from a broken home abusive parents evil influence from older brother difficulty in forming relationships with others,while he acs all bad ass (yeah i said it" his not a "bad ass bad ass" (said it again) he just doesnt know any other life
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There is no way in hell they are killing off the most popular character on the most popular scripted show on television. It is just not going to happen.

Daryl Dixon will either survive or die in the last season.

The only way Daryl will die earlier is if ratings slip and they do it to get ratings during sweeps in a future season.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. I have no idea where this hard on for Daryl came from. Sure, he kills zombies... So does everybody else in the show. But wait! Daryl does it with a crossbow! HOLD... THE... PHONE! His character development is painfully slow. Remember him and Carol? What came of that? Nothing. And with Merle's death there is even less to do with him as they tied up the only loose end and story line that Daryl had. If Merle was still alive, I could see the reasoning for keeping Daryl alive. But, now its just to keep all the fan boys and burning loins of girls to not throw a temper tantrum.

I would love to see Daryl die at the end of the next season. However, I doubt it will happen. Now, I'm not saying I don't like Daryl. I just don't see why he is the best character to ever grace TV like some fans claim. I mean... some fans claim to even be willing to stop watching the show if Daryl dies? Really? If that's the case, you mid as well stop watching Walking Dead altogether, go buy a copy of Boondock Saints and pause the movie at a picture of Murphy MacManus. Same effect right?
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some fans claim to even be willing to stop watching the show if Daryl dies?


Yeah but that's a load of horse shit.

Daryl and Michonne are both problematic for me because they somewhat resemble figures from mythology, as opposed to real life. By that I mean characters in Greek and Norse mythology had no real depth of character and were defined by attributes (not personalities). Thor wields a hammer. Poseidon wields a Trident. By contrast, Michonne wields a sword and Daryl wields a crossbow. The weapons are a large part of what defines the characters, rather than their personalities.

Such characters are a bit limited, IMO.
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The only real development that came from Merle's death for daryl was in the finale... My brother never anything like that in his whole life.
Actually when you think about it there wasn't really anything that came from it, no character development.
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The only real development that came from Merle's death for daryl was in the finale... My brother never anything like that in his whole life.
Actually when you think about it there wasn't really anything that came from it, no character development.


Yeah, I was conflicted about Merle's death. The scene itself was incredibly well done and I was satisfied with it. But, since it happened so close to the end of the season, we didn't see that much reaction from Daryl besides that one line, and he will probably be over it by the time s4 rolls around. I liked finally seeing the two of them together after so long, and I would have loved seeing Merle make it into s4 for more interaction between the Dixons.
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Daryl's character development needs to continue. He needs to move beyond the abused child story to one in which the character is able to find some measure of joy in living. (See Carol),
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All I know is that when or if he goes, I'd want it done at the hands of another character rather than by a zombie, or zombies.
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I honestly believe that depending on the writers and if AMC is chasing ratings that their going to keep the characters around that are attracting viewers. Daryl, an obvious example, attracts a younger aged group because of "fantasies" and the attraction to Daryl's character.

if this is the case, I'd really prefer it not to be. I'd like to see characters stay and go even if I really do like them.


I don't think it's "only" fantasies...I'm a guy and I love Daryl cause hes a complete badass. I hope that someday when the world goes to shit whether at the hands of zombies, bombs, or something biblical that I have a little Daryl Dixon in me...no pun intended.
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I don't think it's "only" fantasies...I'm a guy and I love Daryl cause hes a complete badass. I hope that someday when the world goes to shit whether at the hands of zombies, bombs, or something biblical that I have a little Daryl Dixon in me...no pun intended.


Agreed. Everyone acts like it's so "unrealistic" for him to have survived this long, and that he's only being kept alive because he looks hot to young girls. What nonsense. Daryl is an expert hunter, fighter, outdoorsman and survivalist. If anything, he is the most prepared to survive in this world. Daryl surviving is no more unrealistic than Rick surviving.
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I don't think that's the point being stressed here.

It's not about how realistic an individual like him would be able to survive but rather his external factors (fans, revenue) enhancing his survivability factor. Just because he's an outdoorsman and a survivialist doesn't mean he's used to organisms that can hunt him (animal or man).

This is why if he dies, he has to die to another human being or by a herd of walkers who can outrun him.
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It's not about how realistic an individual like him would be able to survive but rather his external factors (fans, revenue) enhancing his survivability factor. Just because he's an outdoorsman and a survivialist doesn't mean he's used to organisms that can hunt him (animal or man).


I'm a former "hard-core Daryl fan" who is officially "Dixoned out" (had my fill of the Dixons). I can't be the only one, never am.

The "Survival Instinct" game and the fact that Norman Reedus is in every other interview has led to overexposure (first step in declining popularity).

Not saying HE NEEDS TO BE killed off Just saying that I don't think it's as big a risk as it was in seasons two or three.
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