When Did Bob Become A Main Character?

Who is this joker?
 
At the beginning of the season he was some obnoxious whiner whose only accomplishment was getting absolutely everyone around him killed.
 
And he liked to drink or something but I guess the writers forgot about that.
 
I always considered him some annoying side/background character. 
 
Now, he's some major player with a six-pack (yea right, boozer) and a suave personality. When did this happen?
 
Who likes this character?

 

To me he is just an annoying presence on the show with nowhere for his character to go, since

 

 

If I am missing some dynamic aspect of this enthralling character, please point it out to me.

 

I actually hate him more than Carl at this point.

 

 

 

 

They managed to do a lot with Daryl, 

 

Getting everyone killed? Are you talking about Beth's boyfriend?

 

Not sure why you hate him, but I think people like him because he's a breath of fresh air - he's cheerful, he's helpful, he doesn't spend his time pissing and moaning, and he provides a bit of comic relief, which you need in a series this heavy.

Not to mention that they need to bring in fresh characters now and then because so many people get killed off on this show. I don't hate him either, but to each their own I guess.

 

 

Getting everyone killed? Are you talking about Beth's boyfriend?

 

 

I mean he's been in two groups before and he's the only survivor. I'm calling that this guy is some sort of toolbag. They completely dropped his imperfections from the first half of the season and basically made him a whole new character.

I think he is a main character now because he survived the prison.  I kind of like him, was ticked at him for taking the alcohol, or what ever it was, from the vet school, but that seemed realistic.  He is shown to be a flawed character with believable weakness, we would all deal with the ZA in our own way and for an alcoholic it would likely be finding a drink.

 

It's also nice to have someone along who doesn't have to be center stage, he is not going to take over or be a threat to anyone and you need some filler, besides we have to keep finding new people sense they seem hell bent on killing all the old ones.   I think we might just being seeing him in a different light now because there are only the three of them so he might feel more comfortable in showing his personality, rather than being reserved.  Unless he was the cause of the deaths of the other groups I don't see that as an issue, even our group has lost a lot of people, it happens at the end of the world. 

I like Bob...I wasn't too keen on his character at first because of the alcohol issues, but he's grown on me for the same reason Clidna mentioned. I'm holding out hope that after breaking his "curse" to always be the last man standing, that he won't feel the need to hit the bottle to deal with the silence. There is no silence anymore for him. He has a new family.

 

Plus, Lawrence is the only famous person to ever interact with me on Twitter and I got embarrassingly excited about it, haha. 

Who is this joker?
 
At the beginning of the season he was some obnoxious whiner whose only accomplishment was getting absolutely everyone around him killed.
 
And he liked to drink or something but I guess the writers forgot about that.
 
I always considered him some annoying side/background character. 
 
Now, he's some major player with a six-pack (yea right, boozer) and a suave personality. When did this happen?
 
Who likes this character?

 

To me he is just an annoying presence on the show with nowhere for his character to go, since

 

Spoiler

his character in the comics disappears after the prison

 

If I am missing some dynamic aspect of this enthralling character, please point it out to me.

 

I actually hate him more than Carl at this point.

I think he is a very intriguing character.

They have presented him as someone who struggles with alcohol as a way of coping with the ZA. I think he has portrayed that aspect of his character very well.

A six pack? Do you think all alcoholics have a beer belly? Beer doesn't seem to be his alcohol of choice, nor is this relevant.

He has remained somewhat hopeful after the prison collapse because he is still with other people. He is thinking that he broke his streak and he is with people that he thinks he can finally care about. That's why he may not be leaning on the booze right now.

The flashback opening in Alone really started to make Bob grow on me.

That simple five minute scene added a lot of color to his character.

I like him.

"Alone" was really his shining moment this season. They kept him cryptic throughout the first half of the season maybe to be a red herring in the "who is feeding the walkers" mystery.

 

But he's D'Angelo Barksdale so I was biased in his favor right away.

 

Who is this joker?
 
At the beginning of the season he was some obnoxious whiner whose only accomplishment was getting absolutely everyone around him killed.
 
And he liked to drink or something but I guess the writers forgot about that.
 
I always considered him some annoying side/background character. 
 
Now, he's some major player with a six-pack (yea right, boozer) and a suave personality. When did this happen?
 
Who likes this character?
 
To me he is just an annoying presence on the show with nowhere for his character to go, since
 

Spoiler

his character in the comics disappears after the prison

 
If I am missing some dynamic aspect of this enthralling character, please point it out to me.
 
I actually hate him more than Carl at this point.

Okay.. I guess we go line by line.

The only person we saw die by his actions was Beth's 'boyfriend' and even that wasn't his fault. You can't expect what happened to be something he could have reasonably predicted? Also do we know his actions caused the last 2 groups he was with to die? Did he get drunk on watch? Did he sell anyone out? Do we even know? For all we know he bolted when it was too late to make a difference. So we don't know if his guilt is justified or just survivor's guilt.

I'm sure the writer's didn't forget he is an alcoholic, but where do you expect him to find a bottle where they are going? I think you are forgetting the situation he is in. He has no choice but to be dry.

Well yeah... his vices almost got himself killed and nearly drug Daryl with him. You were supposed to hate him.

He's not a major player. He's a B-cast, and it's time the show got a B-cast. for 3 seasons it was A-cast and extras. He might look like a main character because he's getting some screen time, but sometimes I like watching people other than The 'Bridge Officers" Oh BTW what 'suave' personality are you talking about? He's probably happy that even though the prison fell he isn't the last man standing. The fact that Maggie was out there on her own, gave him strength and optimism. Since he's forced to be sober, having a purpose most be helping him go on, and if I was going to see my crush for the last time, I might steal a kiss too.

Well since you asked. I like him and so do most people. You seem to be the minority. I mean to each their own.

Wow... you need to clean your blinders off, there's PLENTY of directions you can take a recovering alcoholic literarily both positive and negative. Oh and the Bob you are referring to does not exist on the show. since

Let's see, he's new. He's real, as in he has believable vices and virtues. He's NOT a superhero, he's a Joe everyman. He's relatable... should I go on?

Eh... Carl's annoying but I expect Kids his age to be annoying.

Okay.. I guess we go line by line.

The only person we saw die by his actions was Beth's 'boyfriend' and even that wasn't his fault. You can't expect what happened to be something he could have reasonably predicted? Also do we know his actions caused the last 2 groups he was with to die? Did he get drunk on watch? Did he sell anyone out? Do we even know? For all we know he bolted when it was too late to make a difference. So we don't know if his guilt is justified or just survivor's guilt.

I'm sure the writer's didn't forget he is an alcoholic, but where do you expect him to find a bottle where they are going? I think you are forgetting the situation he is in. He has no choice but to be dry.

Well yeah... his vices almost got himself killed and nearly drug Daryl with him. You were supposed to hate him.

He's not a major player. He's a B-cast, and it's time the show got a B-cast. for 3 seasons it was A-cast and extras. He might look like a main character because he's getting some screen time, but sometimes I like watching people other than The 'Bridge Officers" Oh BTW what 'suave' personality are you talking about? He's probably happy that even though the prison fell he isn't the last man standing. The fact that Maggie was out there on her own, gave him strength and optimism. Since he's forced to be sober, having a purpose most be helping him go on, and if I was going to see my crush for the last time, I might steal a kiss too.

Well since you asked. I like him and so do most people. You seem to be the minority. I mean to each their own.

Wow... you need to clean your blinders off, there's PLENTY of directions you can take a recovering alcoholic literarily both positive and negative. Oh and the Bob you are referring to does not exist on the show. since

Spoiler

THAT Bob was the Woodbury Drunk who patched TG after Michonne castrated and vivisected him. Obviously that Bob was recycled into a new Bob who has no set destiny on the show.

Let's see, he's new. He's real, as in he has believable vices and virtues. He's NOT a superhero, he's a Joe everyman. He's relatable... should I go on?

Eh... Carl's annoying but I expect Kids his age to be annoying.

 

Citizen Kane slow clap to you, good sir.

 

 

A six pack? Are you referring to a beer belly? Beer doesn't seem to be his alcohol of choice, nor is this relevant.

 

A six pack refers to perfectly toned abs.

Oh BTW what 'suave' personality are you talking about? 

Well since you asked. I like him and so do most people. You seem to be the minority. I mean to each their own.

Spoiler

THAT Bob was the Woodbury Drunk who patched TG after Michonne castrated and vivisected him. Obviously that Bob was recycled into a new Bob who has no set destiny on the show.

Let's see, he's new. He's real, as in he has believable vices and virtues. He's NOT a superhero, he's a Joe everyman. He's relatable... should I go on?

Eh... Carl's annoying but I expect Kids his age to be annoying.

The suave personality I am talking about is his suave personality.

 

On the forums.

 

Still makes him the character from the comics. Is Rick not related to the Rick from the comics because new things have happened to him? I guess Andrea isn't the Andrea from the comics since she died? Same with Dale? And Lori? And Judith?

 

Blinders cleared, calling he doesn't last more than another season. He is a boring character. 

A six pack refers to perfectly toned abs.

I know what a six pack is. It has nothing to do with being an alcoholic.

I know it does. It has nothing to do with being an alcoholic.

Actually, it does. 

Before 'Alone' I had assumed Bob was just one of those anonymous Woodbury persons brought in on the bus.

Before 'Alone' I had assumed Bob was just one of those anonymous Woodbury persons brought in on the bus.

That was my problem. I never wanted to accepted him as an actual character. He disappeared for what feels like four episodes before the mid-season finale. 

 

When he got shot in the arm I was like, "Oh, yea that guy. He's still alive I guess. And for some reason Maggie cares about him. Wait, do they even know each other? Who likes this guy? Didn't he basically only cause problems before?"

 

I was pretty sure he was just fodder. Now, I guess he's been upgraded to filler 

Bob has some uses. He was an army medic at one time. Recall before the prison fell and he went out on the drug run with Tyreese, Michonne, Daryl? He questioned his place in the group?
Bob: Are you sure you need me?
Daryl: (holding up a list of drugs needed and pointing to one in particular): "What's that word?" 
Bob: (reading the word and pronouncing it without any stumbling) ... 
Daryl: (nodding) Yep, we need you. 

As far as his drinking, again Daryl takes this by the reins. If you recall he got busted with booze in his pack instead of medical supplies. Daryl did that extreme close-up head to head stare down and not saying a word. Then backs off and warns Bob after giving him the bottle back that if he gotten drunk before the sickness was over, he was going to beat his ass. 
Later Sasha praised him for his help and evidently this was enough to change his mind on finishing that bottle he had in the box, to which Glenn used to good effect. 

 

I think Bob has a lot of potential as a character and for growth. 
Give the guy a break. Give the writers a break and lets see where they take this man. 

That was my problem. I never wanted to accepted him as an actual character. He disappeared for what feels like four episodes before the mid-season finale. 

 

When he got shot in the arm I was like, "Oh, yea that guy. He's still alive I guess. And for some reason Maggie cares about him. Wait, do they even know each other? Who likes this guy? Didn't he basically only cause problems before?"

 

I was pretty sure he was just fodder. Now, I guess he's been upgraded to filler 

 

Uh, everyone disappeared - those were the episodes about the Governor. Nobody from the prison was in them.

 

Bob was in every single episode in the first half, except the Governor ones.

Actually, it does. 

I've met plenty of alcoholics and they come in all shapes and sizes.

You're missing my point, however.

They showed Bob as someone struggling with the disease.

So, whether he has a six pack or a beer belly is irrelevant. It just seems like a silly nitpick.

I don't care for Bob either, but I don't super-hate him like the OP seems to.   

I don't really see him as a main character yet, maybe like a supporting cast member instead of just an extra with lines, but I don't think he will stick around for the long-haul needed to be a main character.

 

I don't like this new relationship with Sasha, it seems so forced. I understand the argument about why he is so happy now, but it still annoys me and I am hoping that he is one of the deaths we will see in the season finale.

Before 'Alone' I had assumed Bob was just one of those anonymous Woodbury persons brought in on the bus.

Yeah, me too. Actually, it took me a few minutes in 'Alone' to realize that guy was someone I already knew! I didn't get that it was a flashback until he was all the way to the point of drinking the cough syrup.

I didn't like Bob in the comic because of the vital role he played with TG but I loved how they portrayed him in the books, and in The Fall of The Governor

. TV-Show-Bob is redeemable, and I  like that theyre going in that direction.

The suave personality I am talking about is his suave personality.
 
On the forums.
 
Still makes him the character from the comics. Is Rick not related to the Rick from the comics because new things have happened to him? I guess Andrea isn't the Andrea from the comics since she died? Same with Dale? And Lori? And Judith?
 
Blinders cleared, calling he doesn't last more than another season. He is a boring character.

Rick is still Rick. He is still every bit the Rick from the comics. He fills the same role, and he still is put in mostly similar situations and has, tangibly close outcomes.

Lets Compare Comic Bob © and TV Bob. (T)


The ONLY thing that C and T have in common is the name and occupation. Hell they aren't even the same race (Minor nitpick I know but it DOES annoy me when they arbitrarily change a character's race.) These two are so different that they really aren't the same person.

Now... compare Bob and boBs' differences to the strawman you tried setting up with Lori, Rick, Dale, ect, yeah there were differences, there were personality changes, but there's no denying they were still the comic counterparts. They were the same characters given different script.

Comic Bob was put into a blender set at 11 and then poured into a new mold and cooked up as something different. Since TV TG was so different they never needed Comic Bob to help him, so that character went to oblivion and got recycled as someone completely different.

A six pack refers to perfectly toned abs.

Bob doesn't have perfectly toned abs.