The Governors Mole

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I was on the fence about Bob but now I'm thinking he may be the mole sent by TG.
TG knows where the prison is and isn’t stupid so of course he would send someone with skills that the prison group would see as a plus.
TG also knows Rick a little from Andrea, Merle and their brief conversation, he would be able to "train" some one on how to answer the groups questions (i.e. only have killed non walkers out of defense) .
I do not see anyone going willingly and following through with TG plans unless they were being pressured (once inside the saftey of the prison why follow TG orders?)

TG may have leverage on Bob to keep him loyal (keeping a loved one of Bobs).

Bob seems to be holding something back,always uneasy and in some kind of inner turmoil. This is what is probably making him need those drinks. The first bottle he let go, nothing maijor had happened yet.
The second bottle he held on for dear life.. He has seen whats been happening to the people in the prison, his conciouse must really be getting to him; he is becoming more uncomfortable with the knowledge of what he has done and what is comming.

Bob mentions having been with groups before and having been a "witness”, very vauge (he may have been in a group taken over by TG and been a witness to what a evil bstard TG is).
Bob also says when Daryl "found" him he should have kept walking (all small clues to show the unease and regret he has with having to be the mole)?

Bob knew that shooting the infected walkers would splash the blood on them during the vet school run. The other 3 present have had plenty of Zed blood on them and may not have known that the "infected" blood would pose a greater threat. When Bob told them not to shoot it’s as if he were certain it would be transmitted quickly.

Yes Bob is a medic but he seems to know more about this disease than Dr.S (who coughed blood on Hershel accidentally)


Bob could have introduced the illness into the camp to weaken the numbers.
Bob could also be feeding the rats to the Walkers knowing it will bring more on and add pressure to a weakened fence.

As we know TG has used Walkers in the past as a weapon. TG may have come across a sick person or animal and had Bob introduce that in the prison (a medic may know how to introduce something like that into food/water, as well as how to not get ill himself)


TG is going to return at some point and if the prison is weakened by disease, by more walkers zoning in and as an added bonus internal divisions within the group, it will be all the easier to take down.

My speculations are usualy wrong but I think that there is something about Bob.
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Agree with everything you've said. I'm guessing it'll be one of those things where it turns out to be either Bob, or the Governor didn't even have a mole in the first place! (Unless I've missed any kind of spoilers to indicate otherwise.)
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Very much a possibility. Something is definitely off about this man. He knows something that the group does not.
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Bob just seems too obvious as the choice here. And I'm not so certain we've seen the supposed mole yet. What if the mole was Sasha? There's a nice twist.

I mean if it is Bob, not that it would be a bad thing just not as fun as something more shocking.
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Yeah, I think they might want us to think it's Bob. He is kinda obvious.
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And what if Bob is just as we see him, a man who has been in two different groups which both died except for himself, being traumatized because as a medic he was not able to help them? Perhaps in the first supply run to the Big Spot he was able to fight of his dependence on alcohol but bearing the extra weight of Zach's death and having everyone seemingly die again sent him over the edge?

I understand why everyone suspects him of a lot, but like xaviersaint said he appears to be too obvious for us to be a mole for The Governor or any other group. And many people seems to expect The Governor to attack the prison again like he did twice last season. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point Rick and the others decide too leave the prison due to the flu and coincidentally run into TG when they found a new place to stay. Or a group on a supply run are surprised by him and taken hostage and brought to the prison gates to be executed if Rick and co refuse to surrender
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. Having Bob as a mole inside slowly working up to the return of The Governor would take the shock effect away.
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Coincidence how Daryll found him on the road though if he was a spy.
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That's an interesting theory, too obivious. Bob seems to have a problem with the booze, I don't think TG would use him because of that IMO. If Bob ever went on a bender or drank way too much he might say something under the influence from the bottle.
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Coincidence how Daryll found him on the road though if he was a spy.


Planted by TG in an area where he knew daryl of someone else will come across, Bob could have been walking roads that prison members searched for a whike til he was picked up. I agree that he can be kind of obviuos but what if its just that? Instead of allot of twists and turns as in last season there is a solution to a mystery right before our eyes whose dropping clues.Daryl said something like he was gonna "pound him into the ground" regarding the drinking and his people. If Bob has surrvived the destruction of 2 groups and he is still alive why not take off? He seems like he has to stay not wants to. Bob also made a comment of the gas station group going out together as they lived (as if it ere something he and maybe a loved one should have done). Bob doesnt strike me as a survivor, he seems a little weak, dependant on alcohol to get through the day and seems to be going through the motions of living while he is at the prison. Bob shared one confesion with Daryl over a cigarette perhapse to convince himself "yeah these people are assholes like TG says", but Daryl surprised him and said it wasnt his fault.

Bob may end up being a huge Red Herring, but I also thought that no way was Anrew (?) the guy causing havoc in the prison season 3 episode 4.

If Bob isnt the mole, no more playing Clue for me....I say it was Bob in the prison with the diseasead blood.
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Yeah I thought for sure bob would be the mole, but now I agree that he is just too obvious. If there is a mole it its most likely someone that's had little or no screen time.
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That's an interesting theory, too obivious. Bob seems to have a problem with the booze, I don't think TG would use him because of that IMO. If Bob ever went on a bender or drank way too much he might say something under the influence from the bottle.

Unless Bob never showed a problem wih booze before and is only using is to cope. He was able to put the first bottle back but after seeing the horrific events he NEEDED that secon bottle.


Ahh I know, I know probably wrong...watching too many dedective showes over the years :blush:
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Hey guys you wanna know a secret, pssst, keep it quiet, shhh. The Governor's mole is...

Spoiler

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The Governor is a total Psycopath and would bet maybe even one of the children may be a be mole like Lizzy. Should was kinda deranged giving the zombies names!
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Hey guys you wanna know a secret, pssst, keep it quiet, shhh. The Governor's mole is...

Spoiler


Wrong. Arthritis granny is the mole.
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The Governor is a total Psycopath and would bet maybe even one of the children may be a be mole like Lizzy. Should was kinda deranged giving the zombies names!


I do not thiink TG would have a problem using a child to do his dirty work, but children are unpredictable. Some have posted so is Bob because of the drinking, but he may not have been a big time drinker til now. If TG does have some leverage on Bob and Bob screws up cause of booze or something else he must know the "other person" TG has is a gonner and not to be done away with quickly either.

I think Tg has been watching the prison for a while and is keeping tabs on whats going on in the prison. The Prison group doesnt even know who is feeding rats to the walkers it could very well be TG to take some suspicion off of Bob.

As I said TG is not dumb hes a smart phychopath who has had time to plan an assault on the prison (whats better than "germ warfare" used for centuries people throwing decomposing bodies of plague victems at their enemies). He has also had time to "gather more people", as weve seen he is a good liar and can spin shit to make others belive.
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TG and the able ones went to fight, while Tyreese and Sasha stayed behind with those that were not able to fight. I am not completely onboard that TG sent a mole. There is the possibility that others from Woodbury like TG. In Episode 2 or 3, there was a black woman named Jeanette who wanted to help. Who is she, why did they focus on her? Also, remember the attack on the prison where a truck tore through the fence and stopped in the middle of the prison yard. When the back opened, zombies walked out. The driver of the truck got out and ran. He was wearing all black, and looked like he had some kind of protective head covering on. What happened to him/her? Could he/she be at the prison?
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Bob just seems too obvious as the choice here. And I'm not so certain we've seen the supposed mole yet. What if the mole was Sasha? There's a nice twist.

I mean if it is Bob, not that it would be a bad thing just not as fun as something more shocking.

Most likely it won't be Bob because he is the one that everyone suspects, and they writers always throw a curve. That is what makes the show so great. Who would have ever thought that Rick would ban Carol from the group.
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Very much a possibility. Something is definitely off about this man. He knows something that the group does not.

In the last episode, Bob mentioned that he was the only survivor from 2 groups. How is it that everyone else in those 2 groups died, but he survived? Based on his character, it does not make sense. If it is true, I think that he had something to do with the others dying. He may have done something irresponsible that caused the deaths, or he actually killed them. He could have taken the army clothes from someone else. I thought that he was the one that killed and burned Karen and David, until Carol confessed to Rick.
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In the last episode, Bob mentioned that he was the only survivor from 2 groups. How is it that everyone else in those 2 groups died, but he survived? Based on his character, it does not make sense. If it is true, I think that he had something to do with the others dying. He may have done something irresponsible that caused the deaths, or he actually killed them. He could have taken the army clothes from someone else. I thought that he was the one that killed and burned Karen and David, until Carol confessed to Rick.


It very well may turn out to be that he was directly involved with the downfall of his old groups, but I honestly just think he is a coward at heart who runs when the shit hits the fan. He doesn't really seem to be much of a team player, but I don't get any "bad guy" vibes from him. His look of pure self-loathing after Daryl's speech spoke volumes to me.
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There is no mole
just one of the crazies in the prison feeding rats for crazies reasons CRZAIE

The governor is not Mossad he is not running an intelligence agency (covert surveillance, infiltrating spies) LOL whatever he is up to !

When the gov shows up its because someone came to him with intel on the flu sit-rep at the prison and he decided to check it out
Carol or Sam

Whats he going pay his spy in Euros Yen?

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There is no mole
just one of the crazies in the prison feeding rats for crazies reasons CRZAIE

The governor is not Mossad he is not running an intelligence agency (covert surveillance, infiltrating spies) LOL whatever he is up to !

When the gov shows up its because someone came to him with intel on the flu sit-rep at the prison and he decided to check it out
Carol or Sam

Whats he going pay his spy in Euros Yen?

He could have been spying on the prison for months for all we know, waiting for the time to strike. I remember reading a post from another user on here that he could be holding Bob's family hostage to make him infiltrate the prison.
I think we'll all be surprised about what the writers have done with The Governor this time around according to David Morrissey.
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Have I missed something - is it a given that the Gov has a mole inside the prison? I hope not because, frankly, I don't buy it. The Governor had a loyal following at Woodbury because a) he was utterly ruthless with his henchmen and B) for the rest of the group there, he kept his real personality well hidden and provided a protective environment. Without being able to provide a safe haven for people why would anyone fall in behind him, let alone agree to risk there lives for him by playing sleuth inside another survivor group. It's not as though, he's the leader of a religion or ideology.
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Bob is pretty much an enigma and I do not think he is being forthright with the group. If he is the mole (which I think he is) hes gonna be telling lies to the group and may only slip up occasionally. In the vet school how did he know the flue walkers blood was very contagious, the other 3 were ready to start slashing and bashing. With the bottle when he faces Daryl he states he "diddnt want to hurt anybody", there could be more to that statement than a apology for holding on to a bag of booze while being surrounded by Walkers. TPTB has used plot twists and turns many times, this time they may have chosen a rather "obvious" choice, it would be diffrent. Bob did mention he was a survivor of two groups but really diddnt go into detail. When Daryl asked him about his last group Bob replied "which one" end of conversation. The only other thing I remember him stating is that he was sick of being a witness. Whatever group your in including the prison if you survive you are a witness, to others dying, turning etc. I think he was a "witness" to some of TG deviant behavior and complete lack of concern at the suffering of others.

Another poster mentioned his self loathing when Daryl left him holding the bottle I agree with the sentiment but that it goes deeper that being reckless for a bottle of booze.

Also another poster mentioned his clothes, they are pretty new and clean considering what everyone else has. I'm thinking someone smarter than Bob would be able to get supplies including clothes, namely TG.

I know I'm very convinced of this and if its wrong, well I'm the "Barny Fife" of the forum :blush2:
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I know I keep going on about this but right at the end of the episode TG is watching the prison and how much distruction has been caused. I think TG has always been watching making sure that his plan with the mole is being carried out. Bob was reluctant to go on the run to the vet hospital, he could have been worried to be seen leaving by TG. I do think the drinking has to do with Bob being conflicted over what he is doing.
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bob super-volunteered for the supermarket mission in ep no.1 even thou he was not asked

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