Episode 4: Amid The Ruins Review

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Yeah I want an extremely long episode to balance out the short episodes we've received this season. I can remember spending three hours each on episode 3 and 4 initially (although that may be due to my pathetic skills as a gamer and having no idea what to do). I also don't want them to go all out on the deaths, so far with the exception of Sarah and Omid, I haven't felt a thing in regards of these people dying. Whilst opposed to season 1, when I felt bad for letting Ben drop to his death. And I didn't even like the boy.
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The wait between Episodes 4 and 5 of WAU was also the shortest and the episode was only a little over an hour long (though, making a decision at the beginning alters the entire episode, so it was ok in my book)

All I know is that if there's a Season 3, I do NOT want to play as Clementine. I don't care if it's a step backwards but she works way better as an NPC
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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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I would actually like to start afresh with a new group if we do get a season3. Have them with their journey and go through what they experience, properly develop them and get us to like them like in season1, even though we might not always agree with them. At the end of it, we could have them come across Clementine, linking their story to hers. In season4, I wouldn't be opposed to playing her again because we would have had a break from her. There's only so much misery and torture and groups constantly getting killed she can endure before she's going to snap. I would rather have her be at peace and her story on hold than that, because it can get old pretty quick.
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I know this isn't exactly a "review", but I'm just gonna say this because I unfortunately feel it'll be accurate:

 

I like Mike, but I see him being the T-Dog of the game: we like him, there aren't any negatives about him really, but he'll die right as we're about to get something awesome out of him (like when T-Dog was just opening up about his religion and what not). Sucks too, cause I like both the characters, and seeing Mike make it out would be interesting...I just don't see it. :/


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I know this isn't exactly a "review", but I'm just gonna say this because I unfortunately feel it'll be accurate:
 
I like Mike, but I see him being the T-Dog of the game: we like him, there aren't any negatives about him really, but he'll die right as we're about to get something awesome out of him (like when T-Dog was just opening up about his religion and what not). Sucks too, cause I like both the characters, and seeing Mike make it out would be interesting...I just don't see it. :/


It seems like there a lot of T-Dog's in this season if I'm being honest. Looking back, Rebecca's death was kinda half assed (although the fallout is simply amazing). I know she would be extremely unwell and unlikely to survive on the road, but I wanted her to see the end of the season alive.
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Bolded part made me laugh harder than it should've

 

And NukemDukem does all the alternate playthroughs for the Walking Dead. This one shows the thing with Sarita

 

Here's his playlist:

https://www.youtube....SvsXH53FlZYeUfV

 

Thanks man, I'll definitely check that out!


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TWS: I thought you might like (or hate) this

http://michael-7123....e-defence-essay

 

And if you think it's useless, one good thing came out of the essay: the group is currently in Tennessee 


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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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TWS: I thought you might like (or hate) this

http://michael-7123....e-defence-essay

 

And if you think it's useless, one good thing came out of the essay: the group is currently in Tennessee 

 

Is it embarrassing that happy dancing was involved over the possibility that the (completely fictional) group might currently be in my state? 

 

Yeah, I'm just going to go sit in the corner now...


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TWS: I thought you might like (or hate) this
http://michael-7123....e-defence-essay
 
And if you think it's useless, one good thing came out of the essay: the group is currently in Tennessee


Thanks Jesus. Was a really interesting read and glad to know whereabouts they are currently are.

Anyway I agreed with most of the article up until "Amid The Ruins". I felt both Luke and Jane were both to blame, and whilst everybody else has been an asshole at times just as much as they've been good, I felt this was the most stupidest thing they could have done. Luke tries to escape from his mistakes, and then he ends up committing the biggest fuck up since Ben's deal with the bandits. I wouldn't say Jane was taking advantage of a vulnerable man either, they are all pretty much vulnerable. Kenny was mourning but somehow he managed to get the job done, and he's went through worse than Luke.

Idk it just doesn't feel right to me. If this wasn't a game it could very easily had everybody on the barrier fall to their deaths, leaving a woman in labor and Kenny the last ones standing. Personally they could have waited until after Rebecca had her baby because that what the group's main priority. They slacked off and Sarah got killed, yet Luke was more interested in Jane leaving? As I said, the writers either missed an opportunity there or Luke is being portrayed as a completely selfish idiot on purpose.
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I ended up robbing that dude. I sorta paniced in the moment and ended up robbing him, which I didn't really want to do. I convinced myself to do it and that was that.

 

If you don't rob him, what happens? Same thing?


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I ended up robbing that dude. I sorta paniced in the moment and ended up robbing him, which I didn't really want to do. I convinced myself to do it and that was that.
 
If you don't rob him, what happens? Same thing?


I robbed him as well for the same reasons you put it. I remembered how stealing the car supplies effected the stranger, but the group overall did need it.

Looking at the wiki if you don't steal the drugs, Jane takes his gun and threatens him not to come back. The same thing with the Russians occur, although this time he is demanding for the gun to be given back to him.
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I robbed him as well for the same reasons you put it. I remembered how stealing the car supplies effected the stranger, but the group overall did need it.

Looking at the wiki if you don't steal the drugs, Jane takes his gun and threatens him not to come back. The same thing with the Russians occur, although this time he is demanding for the gun to be given back to him.

 

Really?  I didn't take the meds, but Arvo still said something like, "I told them you were the ones that robbed me, and he thinks it's funny you're just a little girl."  I didn't hear him actually mention the gun, and it also wouldn't let me reply that I didn't actually rob him.  I could either blame Jane, or offer to make it right somehow.  I was disappointed there wasn't a dialogue option of, "But we DIDN'T take your shit!  We gave it back to you and let you go, you fucking ungrateful bastard."

 

I did end up blaming Jane, because she was gone, and she took his gun so I thought maybe that's what he was referring to.  But then he was just pissed that Jane wasn't there, too (although he didn't notice before I pointed out that she wasn't there).  Then, the shit hit the fan.

 

Honestly, I was a little disappointed that not taking the meds didn't seem to change the story even slightly.  I guess they're just driving the point home that you can never trust anybody.


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Really? I didn't take the meds, but Arvo still said something like, "I told them you were the ones that robbed me, and he thinks it's funny you're just a little girl." I didn't hear him actually mention the gun, and it also wouldn't let me reply that I didn't actually rob him. I could either blame Jane, or offer to make it right somehow. I was disappointed there wasn't a dialogue option of, "But we DIDN'T take your shit! We gave it back to you and let you go, you fucking ungrateful bastard."

I did end up blaming Jane, because she was gone, and she took his gun so I thought maybe that's what he was referring to. But then he was just pissed that Jane wasn't there, too (although he didn't notice before I pointed out that she wasn't there). Then, the shit hit the fan.

Honestly, I was a little disappointed that not taking the meds didn't seem to change the story even slightly. I guess they're just driving the point home that you can never trust anybody.


Idk it just said that in the wiki page. Anybody could edit it I know, but that's the information there. I think this is another case where somebody blames you for something you didn't do. Like if your Lee was a saint, the Stranger struggles to come up with stuff against you to the point where it's almost comical.
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I've noticed that one thing from this episode that's stuck with me since I've played it is Sarah's death.  When she was trapped, and just about to be eaten, she called out for me.  "Clementine...!"  That last call for help was my (Clem's) name.  And I couldn't do anything but watch.  It's definitely a shame she snapped out of her nearly-comatose state just in time to see and feel herself being eaten.  It was probably in those final moments she realized she wanted to live, and still had a best friend in Clementine looking after her. 

 

Thinking about the scene after the fact has only made it emotionally harder for me.   I can't get the sound of that, "Clementine...!" out of my head.


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I've noticed that one thing from this episode that's stuck with me since I've played it is Sarah's death.  When she was trapped, and just about to be eaten, she called out for me.  "Clementine...!"  That last call for help was my (Clem's) name.  And I couldn't do anything but watch.  It's definitely a shame she snapped out of her nearly-comatose state just in time to see and feel herself being eaten.  It was probably in those final moments she realized she wanted to live, and still had a best friend in Clementine looking after her. 
 
Thinking about the scene after the fact has only made it emotionally harder for me.   I can't get the sound of that, "Clementine...!" out of my head.


I know the feeling. What makes it worse is that I did everything to make sure she stayed alive, absolutely everything. Seeing her inadvertently getting killed off because of Luke's sexual needs made me furious. I know she shouldn't have been on the barrier in the first place, but if Luke had spotted the zombies earlier, we would have had more time to prepare and she would have been with Rebecca. I think what makes it even worse is the lost potential. Near enough everybody who has died in this season hasn't made that much impact to me personally.
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Episode 5 is supposedly to be released on September 23rd, I found it in an article through google. There were also achievements for episode 5.. Which I think may have been posted previously. Enter at your own risk, achievements/spoilers inside.


http://www.kpopstarz...elease-date.htm
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I loved episode 4 despite me rolling my eyes and thinking man they're running out of ideas during the find the Racoon bit.

 

Also what is with them introducing a strong independent female character who has what it takes to survives and is super helpful only to have them walk away from the group in episode 4 (Molly and Jane)

 

Im glad reading this that the episode ends with mass gunfire whether or not you choose to shoot Rebecca because when I shot her and everyone opened fired I was just like OH SHIT what have I done!

 

Also I have made a decision for what I feel is the inevitable final difficult choice in episode 5 if you choose between Luke and Kenny who lives. Im choosing Luke, even though I love Kenny and have since the start he has nothing left and is utterly broken, I just see more potential in Luke than Ken right now. Thing is though it definitely seems to be leading towards that decision but surely they wouldn't want to start the new season with half the players having Kenny alive and half Luke. Would be very difficult


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Also what is with them introducing a strong independent female character who has what it takes to survives and is super helpful only to have them walk away from the group in episode 4 (Molly and Jane)
 
Also I have made a decision for what I feel is the inevitable final difficult choice in episode 5 if you choose between Luke and Kenny who lives. Im choosing Luke, even though I love Kenny and have since the start he has nothing left and is utterly broken, I just see more potential in Luke than Ken right now. Thing is though it definitely seems to be leading towards that decision but surely they wouldn't want to start the new season with half the players having Kenny alive and half Luke. Would be very difficult


Agreed on Molly/Jane. If by season3, episode 4, we have yet another badass female loner who lost her sister and tries to find redemption, and then ends up leaving the group anyway, I think I'll probably quit.

As for choosing between Luke/Kenny, it's Kenny everytime for me. Funny because I absolutely hated Kenny in season1 and liked Luke initially. Now it's the opposite. I think Kenny will form a bond with the baby if both survive and that is his reason for carrying on. It might be a bit unhealthy considering he might view the baby as a Duck replacement, but his main purpose always seems to be looking at the bigger picture and caring for the vulnerable (find a boat, protect Katjaa and Duck, save Clementine, protect Sarita, help Rebecca with her child etc.)
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I would actually like to start afresh with a new group if we do get a season3. Have them with their journey and go through what they experience, properly develop them and get us to like them like in season1, even though we might not always agree with them. At the end of it, we could have them come across Clementine, linking their story to hers. In season4, I wouldn't be opposed to playing her again because we would have had a break from her. There's only so much misery and torture and groups constantly getting killed she can endure before she's going to snap. I would rather have her be at peace and her story on hold than that, because it can get old pretty quick.

I don't want to ever play as Clementine again. What was great about Season 1 is that I could play with the priority of survival AND Clementine. Whenever I made a decision, I had to worry about how it would influence Clementine. In Season 2, you can act like an evil person one moment and everything can be sunshine and rainbows in the next. Your decisions aren't going to affect her behavior because the player has constant control of her behavior

 

Imagine if Lee was still alive and he was in the trailer with Clementine. Clementine is convinced she can talk to Sarah and snap her out of it before the zombies come. Now, the decision is, "Do you let Clementine try to get her friend out of her catatonic state or is it too risky?" Now, the decision is a lot harder. As a player, you know that you won't die so making the decision to save Sarah wasn't a hard one. If you were Lee, the decision becomes difficult and I bet more people would leave Sarah behind

 

I know this isn't exactly a "review", but I'm just gonna say this because I unfortunately feel it'll be accurate:

 

I like Mike, but I see him being the T-Dog of the game: we like him, there aren't any negatives about him really, but he'll die right as we're about to get something awesome out of him (like when T-Dog was just opening up about his religion and what not). Sucks too, cause I like both the characters, and seeing Mike make it out would be interesting...I just don't see it. :/

No. Mike is cool and funny. T-Dog wasn't

 

Thanks Jesus. Was a really interesting read and glad to know whereabouts they are currently are.

Anyway I agreed with most of the article up until "Amid The Ruins". I felt both Luke and Jane were both to blame, and whilst everybody else has been an asshole at times just as much as they've been good, I felt this was the most stupidest thing they could have done. Luke tries to escape from his mistakes, and then he ends up committing the biggest fuck up since Ben's deal with the bandits. I wouldn't say Jane was taking advantage of a vulnerable man either, they are all pretty much vulnerable. Kenny was mourning but somehow he managed to get the job done, and he's went through worse than Luke.

Idk it just doesn't feel right to me. If this wasn't a game it could very easily had everybody on the barrier fall to their deaths, leaving a woman in labor and Kenny the last ones standing. Personally they could have waited until after Rebecca had her baby because that what the group's main priority. They slacked off and Sarah got killed, yet Luke was more interested in Jane leaving? As I said, the writers either missed an opportunity there or Luke is being portrayed as a completely selfish idiot on purpose.

Clementine also made the mistake of running off with the Stranger for the same reasons Luke did (looking for emotional attachment in a world where he/she felt there was none left). Plus, keep in mind that Luke lost Pete, Carlos, Alvin, Nick, and Sarah in the span of a week. He was a mess at that point. And like the article said, he wasn't more upset about Jane leaving. It was the last straw (the kitten/dog metaphor).  

 

I've noticed that one thing from this episode that's stuck with me since I've played it is Sarah's death.  When she was trapped, and just about to be eaten, she called out for me.  "Clementine...!"  That last call for help was my (Clem's) name.  And I couldn't do anything but watch.  It's definitely a shame she snapped out of her nearly-comatose state just in time to see and feel herself being eaten.  It was probably in those final moments she realized she wanted to live, and still had a best friend in Clementine looking after her. 

 

Thinking about the scene after the fact has only made it emotionally harder for me.   I can't get the sound of that, "Clementine...!" out of my head.

When I got the Jane/Sarah choice, that's pretty much why I chose to save Sarah. Nobody deserves to die like that and she was just a kid (though I did pout like a toddler and say "B-but...I hate Sarah)

 

I know the feeling. What makes it worse is that I did everything to make sure she stayed alive, absolutely everything. Seeing her inadvertently getting killed off because of Luke's sexual needs made me furious. I know she shouldn't have been on the barrier in the first place, but if Luke had spotted the zombies earlier, we would have had more time to prepare and she would have been with Rebecca. I think what makes it even worse is the lost potential. Near enough everybody who has died in this season hasn't made that much impact to me personally.

I think it's clear that Sarah wasn't made for this world and even if Luke didn't have sex with Jane, Telltale definitely would've made Sarah die in the same episode (presumably the exact same way). Telltale wouldn't have allowed Sarah to live by making her determinant earlier in the episode 

 

Agreed on Molly/Jane. If by season3, episode 4, we have yet another badass female loner who lost her sister and tries to find redemption, and then ends up leaving the group anyway, I think I'll probably quit.

As for choosing between Luke/Kenny, it's Kenny everytime for me. Funny because I absolutely hated Kenny in season1 and liked Luke initially. Now it's the opposite. I think Kenny will form a bond with the baby if both survive and that is his reason for carrying on. It might be a bit unhealthy considering he might view the baby as a Duck replacement, but his main purpose always seems to be looking at the bigger picture and caring for the vulnerable (find a boat, protect Katjaa and Duck, save Clementine, protect Sarita, help Rebecca with her child etc.)

I can see Kenny killing the baby once he realizes that it probably won't be able to live in this world


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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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1) I don't want to ever play as Clementine again. What was great about Season 1 is that I could play with the priority of survival AND Clementine. Whenever I made a decision, I had to worry about how it would influence Clementine. In Season 2, you can act like an evil person one moment and everything can be sunshine and rainbows in the next. Your decisions aren't going to affect her behavior because the player has constant control of her behavior
 
Imagine if Lee was still alive and he was in the trailer with Clementine. Clementine is convinced she can talk to Sarah and snap her out of it before the zombies come. Now, the decision is, "Do you let Clementine try to get her friend out of her catatonic state or is it too risky?" Now, the decision is a lot harder. As a player, you know that you won't die so making the decision to save Sarah wasn't a hard one. If you were Lee, the decision becomes difficult and I bet more people would leave Sarah behind

2) Clementine also made the mistake of running off with the Stranger for the same reasons Luke did (looking for emotional attachment in a world where he/she felt there was none left). Plus, keep in mind that Luke lost Pete, Carlos, Alvin, Nick, and Sarah in the span of a week. He was a mess at that point. And like the article said, he wasn't more upset about Jane leaving. It was the last straw (the kitten/dog metaphor).  
 
3) I think it's clear that Sarah wasn't made for this world and even if Luke didn't have sex with Jane, Telltale definitely would've made Sarah die in the same episode (presumably the exact same way). Telltale wouldn't have allowed Sarah to live by making her determinant earlier in the episode 
 

4) I can see Kenny killing the baby once he realizes that it probably won't be able to live in this world


1) Yeah, I think you've got a pretty valid point there. When I was playing Lee, I felt like I was making my own decisions and I was so much more involved in the game then. Do I save the person who has a gun but knows my secret, or the person who is pretty vulnerable but also useless in sense? Do I abandon this woman who I consider a friend but she just killed another? With Clementine, I'm actually thinking of what she would do. My Lee was pretty cold and ruthless, because most of the time it was always survival (says a lot about me really). But with Clementine, I'm thinking what would she do? And because of that, I'm always making choices I wouldn't initially make and it is kinda annoying.

2) I think Clementine left for the Stranger because she felt more alone than ever. Lee didn't want her looking for her parents, so she left because she felt that there was nobody who cared for her at all (of course this isn't true). With Luke, he had responsibility. A good friend of his was in labor, he has a bond with two young girls who need protecting. I wouldn't have minded if Luke had slept with Jane at a better time, but the group were in the most vulnerable state they had ever been. Kenny was a mess, they were low on ammo, food and water, and there was a herd out there somewhere. He should have been on his guard more.

3) I agree, Sarah wasn't cut out for this world. That's why I think her staying alive shows a stronger message than Clementine still being alive. Just like Sophia, Sarah shows that innocence can still exist in this world. Would it be difficult keeping her alive? Absolutely, and that's why it's worth keeping her. Because she shows that no matter what, there is still good in the world. Now, you probably need to have a perfect balance between that mindset and a survival mindset, so that's what got her killed in the first place. But I think it would have been more rewarding if she managed to stay alive because it shows you what you can accomplish.

4) I can see that as well depending on how the gunfight goes. I hope not though, because it seems to me the main purpose of Kenny living is motivation. Get to the coast was motivation for him. Fixing up the boat was motivation. Depending on your choices, saving Clementine vas motivation. Protecting his family, all of that. The baby will be his next motivation I feel in keeping alive. He's shown before that he is still mourning Duck, (calling Clementine Duck for example) and because of that he feels that it's his duty to keep the baby alive in a way he never did his own son.
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It'll probably be a gunfight and things could surely get quite rough, plus it's cold and walkers should slow down and all that...BUT...wouldn't Telltale have pulled off the perfect troll on players if everybody actually just started shooting at an approaching bunch of zombies? Long shot there, but even with all the tension there, it's no guarantee that any of the two sides would open fire.

 

They've been making some noise, the baby is making some noise, so any cluster of zombies lurking in (or beneath?) the snow would have been waken up. We still get a pretty chaotic situation and some deaths/major injuries for sure. Or they can even have the gunfight actually take place and THEN the zombies come in.

I don't know...it's just I find it hard to believe that under those circumstances if a gunfight were to start, with that much of a short distance between the two sides and with at least two smgs/AKs (Luke, tattooed russian), more than 2 or 3 ppl survived. Having an all-out gunfight with only, say, 1-2 deaths would sound such weak writing to me. So I'll place my 2 cents on the Telltale zombies-troll.


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So season three has been confirmed by Telltale and Robert Kirkman. It was announced at Comic Con, though I haven't seen any other details yet if there are any. *happy dances*

 

http://www.ign.com/a...g-dead-season-3


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Awesome! Telltale have quite a few games developing at the moment with Game of Thrones and Tales from the Borderlands, so another TWD game makes me happy. I still have yet to play season two and The Wolf Among Us. Sooo much catching up to do! 


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So season three has been confirmed by Telltale and Robert Kirkman. It was announced at Comic Con, though I haven't seen any other details yet if there are any. *happy dances*

 

http://www.ign.com/a...g-dead-season-3

So happy, but also disappointed. I'm happy there's a Season 3, but I kind of wish Telltale waited to announce it until after Episode 10 so I wouldn't be sure whether or not Clem would make it. I mean, the article says TT didn't confirm if she'd be in Season 3, but c'mon. She definitely will be

 

Anyway, this is great news! I think it's worthy of it's own thread for more news/speculation, but since you posted it first, you can make it so I don't steal your thunder or anything haha

 

Awesome! Telltale have quite a few games developing at the moment with Game of Thrones and Tales from the Borderlands, so another TWD game makes me happy. I still have yet to play season two and The Wolf Among Us. Sooo much catching up to do! 

I'm wondering if Telltale should consider outsourcing to other companies for jobs like graphics (basically everything that's not writing). Both TWD and WAU took a hit in episode lengths, wait times, and bugs likely due to running multiple projects at once
 
Also, what are you doing on a thread for Episode 4 if you haven't played Season 2? >:(

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Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?


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So happy, but also disappointed. I'm happy there's a Season 3, but I kind of wish Telltale waited to announce it until after Episode 10 so I wouldn't be sure whether or not Clem would make it. I mean, the article says TT didn't confirm if she'd be in Season 3, but c'mon. She definitely will be

 

Anyway, this is great news! I think it's worthy of it's own thread for more news/speculation, but since you posted it first, you can make it so I don't steal your thunder or anything haha

 

 

Feel free to steal my thunder, haha. I thought about making it a thread but was kinda hesitant to do so since there's virtually no information out yet, other than the fact that there will be a season three. You can probably make the thread far more interesting than I can.  :zombiethumbsup: 


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