I'm pretty sure they're still alive; just being held separately from Eugene. IIRC, doesn't Negan contemplate using them as leverage to get Euge on his side, before deciding on his dick instead?That would be a twist. My questions is where are the rest of the people that were with Eugene? Do you think Negan killed the rest or they are being held captive somewhere else. If they are dead, how did Negan know to kill everyone, but Eugene? Did Dwight tell him that Eugene is the brains of the operation? Doesn't seem like Dwight would want to tell Negan that if he indeed is trying to keep Negan from getting the bullets.
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14 February 2014 - 09:34 PM
Maybe Eugene agrees to make ammo for Negan, but sabotages them to backfire. I've done some lazy Google-searching, and found that being careless in reloading spent rounds is a surefire way to cause ammo to misfire. Maybe that's what they mean by "playing by Prison rules" and "fighting dirty."
- Axel (Who else, really?)
#129
14 February 2014 - 09:49 PM
I'm still praying Eugene takes a note from your book and mounts a minigun on a chariot pulled by walkersMaybe Eugene agrees to make ammo for Negan, but sabotages them to backfire. I've done some lazy Google-searching, and found that being careless in reloading spent rounds is a surefire way to cause ammo to misfire. Maybe that's what they mean by "playing by Prison rules" and "fighting dirty."
Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?
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14 February 2014 - 10:14 PM
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14 February 2014 - 10:15 PM
Agreed. However, it would be hard for Dwight to rationalize it to NeganI don't want Eugene to die, but if he does, I like whoever mentioned the idea of Dwight killing Eugene. Would be sad, but at the same time necessary, and would further complicate the character of Dwight.
Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?
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