The only thing I've heard with regards to that is episode 9 being almost 100% translated from an issue
I've heard the same thing about S4E08, which was totally true. That doesn't mean that moving forward, the show will match the comic.
The only thing I've heard with regards to that is episode 9 being almost 100% translated from an issue
Don't get me wrong. I agree. I'm just trying to input what I know about the topicI've heard the same thing about S4E08, which was totally true. That doesn't mean that moving forward, the show will match the comic.
Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?
would make sense, even if their going down another path I think the issue in question is the best possible Segway. I'm so stoked to see Abe it's not even funny! Just watched band of brothers again, and I think he may be the best casting in a long time!The only thing I've heard with regards to that is episode 9 being almost 100% translated from an issue
Don't get me wrong. I agree. I'm just trying to input what I know about the topic
No worries. I'm just wondering if That_Guy_From_NY knows something we all don't.
It's agreed that S4E8 and S4E9 follow closely to the comic, but that doesn't mean that's the precedent moving forward. Could these two episodes, which are represent some of the most emotional portions of the comic, be following them closely to appease the hordes of angry comic fans, thereby saving the show? Or is Scott Gimple simply pulling directly from the comics to pay homage to them? I agree with the former. I feel that Gimple has found a happy medium in doing right by the source material, while deviating from it to fit the direction of the show. The first eight episodes of season 4 are miles ahead of the entirety of Season 3, and I feel it's only going to get better know that they're out of the Prison.
If you feel that it's "too little, too late" for the show, that's just your opinion. Though should you quit on the show now, I feel that you'll end up missing out on some of the best episodes of the entire series.
Well there are a few interviews of Kirkman saying (and even Gimple himself) saying they season 4 sticks closer to the comics and has the most scenes adapted directly from the comics. In 1 interview Gimple says he basically wanted to stick to the comic exactly but it was Kirkman himself who talked him out of it.
Shane is a very mixed bag for me. On one hand, they did make him more fleshed out and more interesting (him killing Otis). On the other, nothing big came out of that. If Rick killed Shane in episode 6 of Season one, it would've had the same impact as episode 12 of Season 2. I thought developing him was going to lead to an awesome conclusion but it kind of just felt like a waste and the plot line just got annoying and soap opera-ish by the end. Plus, Rick killing Shane had nowhere near the amount of impact as Carl killing Shane. We also never got the scene of Rick killing zombie Shaneyou should add andrea to the where it fell short list
boy did they ever fuck her character up
out of curiosity though, how did the show improve on shane and hershel?
Imagine a group of a hundred motorcycles driving down a freeway. Eventually, they hit a junction. One road goes northwest and the other goes northeast. So one guy, we'll call him S, says, "Let's go northwest!" A mile past the intersection, a semi careens into the group and kills ninety of them. Ten are wounded, but they survive and keep going. Eventually, they hit 10,000 miles. S suddenly has his consciousness thrown into his past body right before the junction. Now, he says, "Let's go northeast!" All 100 bikers survive. Happily ever after, right? But what about the ten, no nine, who went northwest and survived? What happens to the reality they were living? Does it just disappear now that S has changed the past? It's not like only bad things happened on that 10,000 mile journey. Maybe one of them fell in love with a gas station attendant and got her pregnant or maybe one adopted a homeless kid that joined the adventure. That 10,000 mile journey would be full of stories. Romances, farewells, friendships...the loss of those ninety lives is horrible and unfortunate, but what would rewriting their history mean? The nine who survived lived full lives and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. How could it be right to just erase all that? Isn't that worth something? Is there a point to a world where everything is happy? Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots? Being human is about fighting even when it seems hopeless and finding happiness in a world that hates it. Are you saying that's worthless?
id agree to Hershel, but really that's just lucky casting and a charecter mash up coming out on top...still sad he won't get to yell "TAINTED MEAT!"you should add andrea to the where it fell short list
boy did they ever fuck her character up
out of curiosity though, how did the show improve on shane and hershel?
you should add andrea to the where it fell short list
boy did they ever fuck her character up
out of curiosity though, how did the show improve on shane and hershel?
SHIT! How did I even forget that? Yes, Andrea fell way short in the TV show.you should add andrea to the where it fell short list
boy did they ever fuck her character up
out of curiosity though, how did the show improve on shane and hershel?
The takeaway from that is we won't be seeing a direct retelling of the comic storyline. I feel we'll get an abridged version of what goes on in the comic, only really pulling iconic scenes from the book, but overall, like you've said, Kirkman wants the show and the comic to be separate. In issue 118's Letter Hacks, someone asked him if he lets the show dictate how the comic is written (i.e., writing the comic knowing that it will be developed fro TV later), to which he replied "no." I think it's a safe bet that the inverse is true.
Throughout the course of this show, they've been hitting all the key points of the source material, while keeping the show separate from the comic. We've followed the same progression (Atlanta camp > Farm > Prison > Open Road) as the comic, while hitting some major, and in some cases, rehashed scenes from the book. I don't think the show execs paused, thought about it, and then made a decision to follow the comics more closely from here on out. The remarkable success of the show, changes in the budgeting, changes in the showrunner, and a variety of other factors have made it seem like they're not following the comics, but I feel that the intent to follow them was always there. They're not deviating from the comics just to piss in the comic purists' cornflakes.
I know Mazarra ruined a big portion of the comic. For some, that stain may never wash away. Season 3 was a disaster and the worst season to date, but I really feel that this thread is spiraling into a rehash of this thread.
Both Abe and Negan (should he appear) will be watered down. I believe AMC literally has zero fucks to give them.
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